From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/3088 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marco Grandis Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: An autonomous category Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:45:25 +0100 Message-ID: <2DE2CF1F-BF75-4606-990C-19C860157CF4@dima.unige.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1241019087 7191 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2009 15:31:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:31:27 +0000 (UTC) To: categories@mta.ca Original-X-From: rrosebru@mta.ca Mon Mar 13 18:53:32 2006 -0400 Return-path: Envelope-to: categories-list@mta.ca Delivery-date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:53:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Majordom by mailserv.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.52) id 1FIvtR-00016m-Dd for categories-list@mta.ca; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:52:01 -0400 Original-Sender: cat-dist@mta.ca Precedence: bulk X-Keywords: X-UID: 34 Original-Lines: 31 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:3088 Archived-At: The Lawvere category of extended positive real numbers has also an autonomous structure, with a multiplicative tensor product (instead of the original additive one). Has this been considered somewhere? To be more explicit: The well-known article of Lawvere on "Metric spaces..." (Rend. Milano 1974, republished in TAC Reprints n. 1) introduced the category of extended positive real numbers, from 0 to oo (infinity included), with arrows x \geq y, equipped with a strict symmetric monoidal closed structure: the tensor product is the sum, the internal hom is truncated difference (with oo - oo = 0). Now, the same category can be equipped with a multiplicative tensor product, x.y. Provided we define 0.oo = oo (so that tensoring by any element preserves the initial object oo), this is again a strict symmetric monoidal closed structure, with hom(y, z) = z/y. Now, the 'undetermined forms' 0/0 and oo/oo are defined to be 0. The new multiplicative structure is even *-autonomous, with involution x* = 1/x (and 'nearly' compact). (Note that this choice of values of the undetermined forms comes from privileging the direction x \geq y, which is necessary if we want to view metric spaces, normed categories etc. as enriched categories). Marco Grandis