From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/6858 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ronnie Brown Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: science_publishers Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:26:35 +0100 Message-ID: <4E613BFB.1020004@btinternet.com> References: Reply-To: Ronnie Brown NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1315092603 7270 80.91.229.12 (3 Sep 2011 23:30:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 23:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Categories , Jacob Vosmaer To: Steve Vickers Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Sun Sep 04 01:29:58 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtpy.mta.ca ([138.73.1.128]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qzzev-0002LU-PA for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 01:29:58 +0200 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:56232) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qzzd9-0004Pl-Ny; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:28:07 -0300 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qzzd9-000486-2H for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:28:07 -0300 In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:6858 Archived-At: A further complication is the role of Thomsons Reuters ISI, since some countries will consider a journal as worth rating for research assessment if and only if it is listed by ISI. I believe Thomsons Reuters is doing very well out of ISI. In 2003 I did a small survey of editors of small journals from an EMS list, and they were either ignorant of ISI or antipathetic to the procedures of the so called `journal assessment'. Usually , requests to be considered seemed to go into a blank hole. I was considering a letter to the AMS Newsletter, but in the end decided to fight for my own corner. and so wrote to Dr James Testa of ISI, saying that the lack of listing of TAC, JHRS and Cahiers failed to recognise the importance of thse journals for category theory, and that editors found the ISI procedures impenetrable and were bitter about this. I got a nice letter back, and a new letter from Mr Rodney Chonka, which has led to the listing of TAC. Mr Chonka is a wide ranging editor for ISI, but his qualifications are unknown. I felt this contrasted with the well publicised academic reputations of editors of journals which were being refused listing. Ronnie Brown Extract from my letter of 19 Nov 2009. "By relying on `impact factor' there is no allowance for the slow acceptance of new ideas, and it seems certain that the use of the ISI methodology is a brake on scientific progress, and of the development and influence of new ideas. This is certainly true in category theory, an area developed in the second half of the last century, has had a major influence in unifying mathematics, and has developed new methods particularly in higher dimensional algebra. " On 01/09/2011 19:55, Steve Vickers wrote: > I'd like to mention "Journal of Logic and Analysis", free and > efficiently run by Nigel Cutland at York. It includes good articles > in that awkward area of non-classical approaches to analysis. > > It has published an article of mine and it seemed the right place, > but should I recommend it to younger researchers? > > Steve Vickers. > [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]