From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/2579 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Valeria.dePaiva@parc.com Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: RE: graphics Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:48:28 PST Message-ID: <839BE2CA5177D3119C7000508B11F5DB04876B38@dagobah.parc.xerox.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1241018759 4814 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2009 15:25:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:25:59 +0000 (UTC) To: categories@mta.ca Original-X-From: rrosebru@mta.ca Sat Feb 28 11:04:17 2004 -0400 Return-path: Envelope-to: categories-list@mta.ca Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:04:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Majordom by mailserv.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.10) id 1Ax5zt-0007XS-00 for categories-list@mta.ca; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:03:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Original-Sender: cat-dist@mta.ca Precedence: bulk X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 Original-Lines: 61 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:2579 Archived-At: Hi all, Robert suggested TeXCad for people who use Windows. I haven't used this system, so cannot comment, but here are my 2 cents worth, just in case... I believe that some day we will be able to draw in the computer as easily as we do in a piece of paper. But meanwhile, you can draw your diagrams in pieces of paper and use ScanScribe (overview at) http://www.parc.com/spl/groups/pda/scanscribe/index.html to make them digital. They won't look as neat as our latex ones, directly. So I, for one, won't be giving up on my latex diagrams quite yet. But you can read about possible uses of ScanScribe for *manipulating* category theory diagrams in http://www.parc.com/saund/papers/diagrams-poster-ss-abstract.html Also if you haven't yet invested the time into getting your latex (xypic or other) in place, maybe these diagrams will be good enough for you, I don't know. Moreover, Eric Saund the creator of ScanScribe is a very helpful computer scientist, who usually likes to have users and tend to be glad to assist them, whenever necessary. In particular, I think he has worked with flowchart diagrams (which might have been the beginning of this thread, I don't remember.) Best, Valeria Dr Valeria de Paiva PARC 3333 Coyote Hill Road PAlo Alto CA 94304 USA -----Original Message----- From: Robert Seely [mailto:rags@math.mcgill.ca] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 8:44 AM To: Categories List Subject: Re: categories: Re: graphics Using picture mode is very convenient when things aren't too complicated, and editing picture mode code is always (well, almost always) easier than redoing mouse based drawing. But the combination of a mouse-based drawing to generate picture mode code, then editing that for fine-tuning is often helpful. For those who are condemned to the Windows framework, let me recommend TeXCad - originally written by G Horn (it was then part of the emtex distribution), currently maintained by Gautier de Montmollin . Like Xfig, it creates picture mode code from your mouse-based drawing. The two programs are not completely similar (I prefer TeXCad, but others may differ!), but if you're using Windows, give it a try. -= rags =- On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Vaughan Pratt wrote: > Xfig is pretty convenient, but one can get a tad impatient with xfig's > imprecision after a while. --