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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Keith, I guess is in "Recoltes et Semailles": " [...] ni, en ces derni=C3=A8res ann=C3=A9es, par les =C3=A9pisodes souven= t assez dingues d=E2=80=99un certain =E2=80=9CEnterrement=E2=80=9D (anticip= =C3=A9 et sans bavures) de ma personne et de mon =C5=93uvre, orchestr=C3=A9 par me= s plus proches compa- gnons d=E2=80=99antan. . . " under the section 2. L'importance d'etre seul. Hope this helps! . Federica P.S. Sorry if I am not putting accents, but I am without a French keyboard = atm. P^2.S. This is a very good book to read ... On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 8:13=E2=80=AFAM Keith Harbaugh > wrote: >From the Guardian article: "a sense of betrayal by his former colleagues." https://www.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/aug/31/alexander-grothendi= eck-huawei-ai-artificial-intelligence Is there any discussion within the French mathematical community of the val= idity of that charge? References, please. I know this brings up some issues. I think it would be worthwhile to discuss them. You're receiving this message because you're a member of the Categories mai= ling list group from Macquarie University. To take part in this conversatio= n, reply all to this message. 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Hi Keith,

I guess is in "Recoltes et Semailles":

" [...] ni, en ces derni=C3=A8res ann=C3=A9es, par les =C3=A9piso= des souvent assez dingues d=E2=80=99un certain =E2=80=9CEnterrement=E2=80= =9D (anticip=C3=A9
et sans bavures) de ma personne et de mon =C5=93uvre, orchestr=C3=A9 par me= s plus proches compa-
gnons d=E2=80=99antan. . . "

under the section 2. L'importance d'etre seul.

Hope this helps! .
Federica

P.S. Sorry if I am not putting accents, but I am without a French keyb= oard atm.
P^2.S. This is a very good book to read ...


On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 8:13=E2=80=AFA= M Keith Harbaugh <keith.harb= augh@gmail.com> wrote:
From the Guardian article:
"a sense of betrayal by his former colleagues."
https://ww= w.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/aug/31/alexander-grothendieck-huawei= -ai-artificial-intelligence

Is there any discussion within the French mathematical co= mmunity of the validity of that charge?
References, please.

I know this brings up some issues.
I think it would be worthwhile to discuss them.
 
 
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