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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From the Guardian article: "a sense of betrayal by his former colleagues." https://www.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/aug/31/alexander-grothendi= eck-huawei-ai-artificial-intelligence Is there any discussion within the French mathematical community of the val= idity of that charge? 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From the Guardian article:
"a sense of betrayal by his former colleagues."
https://www.theguardian.com/= science/article/2024/aug/31/alexander-grothendieck-huawei-ai-artificial-int= elligence

Is there any discussion within the French mathematical co= mmunity of the validity of that charge?
References, please.

I know this brings up some issues.
I think it would be worthwhile to discuss them.
 
 
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