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From: Vaughan Pratt <pratt@cs.stanford.edu>
To: categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: fundamental theorem of algebra
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:59:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1FQC9k-0003YY-7Q@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)

Even in my original posting starting this thread I acknowledged that
contractibility of the circle was not elementary:

> Except, that is, for the theorem that a loop wound d times around the
> hole in the punctured plane cannot be continuously retracted to a point,
> which was tacitly smuggled in there.   But that statement is less
> intimidating than anything based on holomorphic functions.

I haven't at any time claimed that it was not necessary to prove this,
nor that the proof was easy.

What I have been claiming is that the result has a certain self-evident
quality to it that, it seemed to me, qualified the argument as at least
sufficiently "morally elementary" as to qualify it for inclusion in the
Britannic article on algebra.  How could the definitive encyclopedia
article on algebra not give at least a hint as to why that subject's
fundamental theorem was true?

However I've been reflecting on just what is behind the very uniform
insistence on the distinction between an algebraic proof and an analytic
one.  Since algebra is descended from analysis, it seems unkind for
algebra to deny its parentage in this way.

But I see now that this denial is logically necessary.  For consider the
algebraic plane, the least algebraically closed subfield of the complex
plane, consisting of the algebraic numbers.  The FTAlg is by definition
true there, so it ought to be provable there.  One can carry out the
same proof, and it all goes through in the same way (using circles of
growing algebraic radius, all of which are dense in their complex
completion to a connected circle) right up to the last step when we
claim that the wildly growing loop that is the image of the tamely
growing circle must eventually collide with the origin, d times in fact
for a degree d polynomial.

And indeed it does, all d times, exactly as with the complex numbers,
and with the same roots (the coefficients of the polynomial necessarily
being algebraic in this domain).

But now analysis has nothing to do with it, since these circles and
their image loops while dense are totally disconnected.  For all we know
the origin could have missed the loop by going through any of its
uncountably many gaps.  Indeed the loop has measure zero, so the chances
  of the origin colliding with it even once are less than Buckley's.

But with aim that would be the envy of any sniper the origin hit the
loop with every one of its d shots.

And how do we know this?  Using analysis.  The consensus would seem to
be that there is no other way.  Logic alone cannot help.  If that's the
case, then without analysis there is no algebraic plane.  Without the
huge continuum to support it, that tiny countable set would not exist!

It is ironic that a theorem of algebra about an algebraic domain that
itself has no element of analysis to it, being just the algebraic
closure of the rationals, a small and totally disconnected space, should
require analysis, the parent of algebra, for its proof.

The fundamental theorem of algebra is like a student calling home for
more money.  It takes a continuum to raise an algebraic number.

Vaughan Pratt




             reply	other threads:[~2006-04-02  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-02  0:59 Vaughan Pratt [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-04  1:08 Michael Barr
2006-04-03 23:41 John Baez
2006-04-03  4:18 Vaughan Pratt
2006-04-02 18:43 Fred E.J. Linton
2006-04-01 14:59 jim stasheff
2006-04-01 13:01 Michael Barr
2006-04-01  9:44 Prof. Peter Johnstone
2006-03-31 19:39 John Baez
2006-03-31  7:20 Vaughan Pratt
2006-03-31  4:01 John Baez

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