* Re: C*-algebras
@ 2007-04-29 4:30 Gabor Lukacs
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From: Gabor Lukacs @ 2007-04-29 4:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: categories
Dear Bas,
> It seems hard to find references to a categorical treatment of
> C*-algebras.
I am surprised to hear that. Here are a few, which I am almost sure that
you are already familiar with:
D. H. Van Osdol. C*-algebras and cohomology. In Categorical topology
(Toledo, Ohio, 1983), volume 5 of Sigma Ser. Pure Math., pages 582-587.
Heldermann, Berlin, 1984.
J. Wick Pelletier and J. Rosick´y. On the equational theory of
C*-algebras. Algebra Universalis, 30(2):275-284, 1993.
Joan Wick Pelletier and Ji.r´. Rosick´y. Generating the equational theory
of C*-algebras and related categories. In Categorical topology and its
relation to analysis, algebra and combinatorics (Prague, 1988), pages
163-180. World Sci. Publishing, Teaneck, NJ, 1989.
Edward G. Effros and Zhong-Jin Ruan. Operator spaces, volume 23 of
London Mathematical Society Monographs. New Series. The Clarendon
Press Oxford University Press, New York, 2000.
[This last one is not categorical, but it contains some results concerning
the tensor products that can easily be interpreted categorically.]
You my find a brief summary of the categorically interesting points in
Chapter 8 of my PhD thesis:
http://at.yorku.ca/p/a/a/o/41.pdf
> Concretely, there are several tensor products on C*-algebras. Which one
> is `the right one' from a categorical perspective?
This is an interesting question, but I suspect that you may find a clue to
answer this question here:
Theodore W. Palmer. Banach algebras and the general theory of *-algebras.
Vol. 2, volume 79 of Encyclopedia of Mathematics and its Applications.
Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, 2001.
I hope that my answers are of some help to you.
Best wishes,
Gabi
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* Re: C*-algebras
@ 2007-05-02 17:03 Jeff Egger
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From: Jeff Egger @ 2007-05-02 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: categories
--- Miles Gould <miles@assyrian.org.uk> wrote:
> Jeff Egger gave a talk on some of these ideas at the Nice PSSL - I'm
> somewhat surprised he hasn't replied to this thread.
I'm usually too shy to post to the mailing list, so I wrote Bas Spitters
a personal reply instead. In this case, though, I have to set the
record straight...
> IIRC, the category
> of operator algebras is an involutive monoidal category with respect to
> one or other of the tensor products, and C*-algebras are exactly the
> involutive monoids w.r.t. this tensor product. Can't remember which one
> it was, though.
The category of operator _spaces_ admits a (non-trivial) involutive monoidal
structure---by which I mean a (non-commutative) monoidal structure together
with a _covariant_ involution that reverses the order of tensoring.
[Regarding a monoidal category as a one-object bicategory B, this means
that the involution relates B with B^{op} rather than with B^{co}.]
The tensor product is called the _Haagerup_ tensor product, and the
involution I considered is the so-called _opposite_ operator space
structure applied to the conjugate vector space. I had conjectured that
involutive monoids in this involutive monoidal category (which, for the
purposes of this mail, I shall call involutive operator algebras) are
the same as C*-algebras, but eventually I discovered a counter-example
which showed that involutive operator algebras are strictly more general
than C*-algebras. (This was the direction which had less concerned me!)
I apologise to anyone to whom I failed to mention this counter-example.
Cheers,
Jeff.
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* Re: C*-algebras
@ 2007-05-01 15:34 Miles Gould
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From: Miles Gould @ 2007-05-01 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: categories
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 10:27:58PM +0200, Bas Spitters wrote:
> It seems hard to find references to a categorical treatment of
> C*-algebras. Concretely, there are several tensor products on
> C*-algebras. Which one is `the right one' from a categorical perspective?
Jeff Egger gave a talk on some of these ideas at the Nice PSSL - I'm
somewhat surprised he hasn't replied to this thread. IIRC, the category
of operator algebras is an involutive monoidal category with respect to
one or other of the tensor products, and C*-algebras are exactly the
involutive monoids w.r.t. this tensor product. Can't remember which one
it was, though.
Miles
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* Re: C*-algebras
@ 2007-04-30 20:54 John Baez
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From: John Baez @ 2007-04-30 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: categories
Bas Spitters wrote:
>It seems hard to find references to a categorical treatment of
>C*-algebras. Concretely, there are several tensor products on
>C*-algebras.
The two I know are the "projective" and "injective" tensor products.
> Which one is 'the right one' from a categorical perspective?
I think the projective (or "maximum possible norm") tensor product
of unital C*-algebras has the following universal property:
There are homomorphisms from A and B into the projective tensor
product A tensor B, and given homomorphisms f: A -> X,
g: B -> X whose ranges commute, there exists a unique homomorphism
f tensor g: A tensor B -> X
such that the two obvious triangles commute, namely one like this:
A ------> A tensor B
\ |
\ |
\ |
f\ |f tensor g
\ |
\ |
v v
X
and a similar one for B.
Here I'm using the unital nature of the C*-algebras in question
to get the homomorphisms from A and B into A tensor B; you have
to do something different for nonunital C*-algebras.
Best,
jb
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* Re: C*-algebras
@ 2007-04-29 3:26 Yemon Choi
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From: Yemon Choi @ 2007-04-29 3:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cat-dist
I'm not an expert but I don't think there is a `right one', it depends
on what you want to do with your C*-algebras. The maximal C*-norm has
better universal properties than the minimal one (it seems) but the
resulting C*-algebra is then somewhat hard to get at.
Actually, I'm not sure what significance the tensor product of
_algebras_ (as opposed to _modules_) has. Of course for commutative
unital algebras this is the coproduct, but commutative C*-algebras
have unique C*-tensor norms anyway.
On 28/04/07, Bas Spitters <B.Spitters@cs.ru.nl> wrote:
> It seems hard to find references to a categorical treatment of
> C*-algebras. Concretely, there are several tensor products on
> C*-algebras. Which one is `the right one' from a categorical perspective?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bas Spitters
>
>
--
Dr. Y. Choi
519 Machray Hall
Department of Mathematics
University of Manitoba
Winnipeg. Manitoba
Canada R3T 2N2
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* C*-algebras
@ 2007-04-28 20:27 Bas Spitters
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From: Bas Spitters @ 2007-04-28 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cat-dist
It seems hard to find references to a categorical treatment of
C*-algebras. Concretely, there are several tensor products on
C*-algebras. Which one is `the right one' from a categorical perspective?
Thanks,
Bas Spitters
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