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From: Sam Staton <ss368@cam.ac.uk>
To: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: question about monoidal categories
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:51:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1JNYPB-0004d5-BI@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)

Hello, here is an answer to Paul's question: The data (F,beta)
defines a (lax?) functor between "monoidal categories with right
units but not left units" [henceforth MR-categories].

Every pointed category can be considered as an MR-category, in fact a
strict one. The tensor product is left projection. The right unit is
the point of the category (although every object of the category
behaves like a right unit for this category.)

In particular, the category S in Paul's email, with point F(1), can
be seen as an MR-category. Of course, every monoidal category,
including M, is an MR-category too.

The data for a lax MR-functor M->S consists of a functor F:M->S, a
morphism F(i)->F(i), which we can take as identity, and a natural
transformation
    F(p)*F(a) --> F(p*a)
which in this case amounts to a map
    beta:F(p) --> F(p*a)

A monoidal functor must satisfy three coherence conditions,
for associativity, left identity and right identity.
For an MR-functor, there are only axioms for associativity and right
identity, and these are exactly the axioms that Paul gave.

Hope that makes sense! All the best, Sam.


On 7 Feb 2008, at 20:05, Paul B Levy wrote:

>
>
>
> Let F be a functor from a monoidal category M to a category S.
>
> We are given
>
>         beta(p,a) : F(p) --> F(p*a)
>
> natural in p,a in M.
>
> If I tell you that, in addition to naturality, beta is "monoidal", I'm
> sure you will immediately guess what I mean by this, viz.
>
> (a) for any p,a,b in M
>
>    beta(p,a) ; beta(p*a,b) = beta(p,a*b) ; F(alpha(p,a,b))
>
> (b) for any p in M
>
>    beta(p,1) = F(rho(p))
>
> Yet I cannot see any reason for giving the name "monoidality" to
> (a)-(b).
>
> It doesn't appear to be a monoidal natural transformation in the
> official
> sense.  There are no monoidal functors in sight.
>
> Can somebody please justify my usage?
>
> Paul
>
>





             reply	other threads:[~2008-02-08  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-08  9:51 Sam Staton [this message]
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2011-04-20  9:43 claudio pisani
2011-04-18 10:37 claudio pisani
2011-04-19  1:40 ` Steve Lack
2008-02-08 20:03 Richard Garner
2008-02-08  8:31 Marco Grandis
2008-02-07 23:58 Jeff Egger
2008-02-07 22:36 Richard Garner
2008-02-07 20:05 Paul B Levy

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