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From: jim stasheff <jds@math.upenn.edu>
To: categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: abutment = aboutement?
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:33:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1KW9Oy-00070n-7j@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)

Vaughan Pratt wrote:
> I'm with Michel on this one:
>
> > Just a remark about "abutment": it translates the French "aboutement",
> > with a rather different meaning than "aboutissement".  The latter is
> > closer to the "ending" (of some process; with possibly a little shade
> > of "fatality" in it).
> >
> > The two words are related, and I don't know whether the mathematical
> > idea behind makes "abutment" good, or even better, but I just wanted
> > to mention the difference.
>
> Not a single abutment in any of the following YouTube videos posted by
> their proud aboutisseurs.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aboutissement&search_type=
>
> Evidently G needed a word with the sense of "limit" or "completion" that
> didn't overload terms that already had technical meanings in that
> context while itself having a technical ring to it, which
> "aboutissement" seems to do nicely in French.  Something like "terminus"
> might serve this purpose in English.
>
> An abutment is an engineering construct for butting two things together,
> often in the context of bridges, whether over a river or between teeth,
> and seems quite unsuitable for this purpose.
>
> Vaughan
>
>
Mathematicians have a gift for language - not to worry about translation
consider translating `field' into
French
Russian
german
...






             reply	other threads:[~2008-08-20 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-20 15:33 jim stasheff [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-22 16:46 Eduardo J. Dubuc
2008-08-22 13:30 wlawvere
2008-08-22 13:22 jim stasheff
2008-08-22  4:04 Fred E.J. Linton
2008-08-21 20:23 Robert L Knighten
2008-08-21 19:18 Vaughan Pratt
2008-08-21 14:30 Nimish Shah
2008-08-21 14:07 Tim Porter
2008-08-21  6:15 Eduardo J. Dubuc
2008-08-20 14:45 jim stasheff
2008-08-20 13:13 Michael Barr
2008-08-20  5:12 edubuc
2008-08-19 18:06 Vaughan Pratt
2008-08-19  6:28 mhebert

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