From: wlawvere@buffalo.edu
To: "Categories list" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: abutment = aboutement?
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:30:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1KWsLt-0001Jw-RE@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
There are common words, rarely used in a technical sense,
that however may be useful as explanatory marginal
alternatives of foreign words. The "ab...ment d.. " being
discussed seems to be explained by "goal", as in
f is the goal of F
where F is the Fourer series of a function f (which leaves to
particular investigation the question of actual convergence).
In turn "goal" can be helpfully explained as
purpose
a concept that academic discussions should not forget.
Bill
On Thu 08/21/08 3:18 PM , Vaughan Pratt pratt@cs.stanford.edu sent:
> Meanwhile I count eight occurrences of "abut" and
> "abutment" in the (36kilobyte!) main Wikipedia article on spectral sequences (there are a
> dozen separate much shorter articles on particular spectral sequences,
> along with a 15 kB article on derived categories).
>
> On the other hand the algebra and geometry articles of the 1987
> Britannica Macropaedia both prefer the term "limit" for what a
> spectralsequence converges to, in respectively Peter Hilton's contribution
> "Other aspects of homological algebra" to the algebra article,
> and thegeometry article's section on algebraic topology.
>
> Since Wikipedia seems to be trumping Britannica these days, and no one
> here has objected to established usage in mathematics trumping
> linguistic suitability, the precise distance of "abutment" from
> theoptimal English cognate for "aboutissement" would appear to be
> academic,an epithet reflecting the outside world's perception that raising moot
> points is in our job description.
>
> Vaughan
>
> >> Thanks to Eduardo D and Vaughan P and Michel
> H for their misgivings,>> which encouraged me to compose the above,
> despite the assurances>> of Jim S that the 'abut*' usage is by now
> well entrenched.>>
> >> Fred
>
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-22 13:30 wlawvere [this message]
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2008-08-22 16:46 Eduardo J. Dubuc
2008-08-22 13:22 jim stasheff
2008-08-22 4:04 Fred E.J. Linton
2008-08-21 20:23 Robert L Knighten
2008-08-21 19:18 Vaughan Pratt
2008-08-21 14:30 Nimish Shah
2008-08-21 14:07 Tim Porter
2008-08-21 6:15 Eduardo J. Dubuc
2008-08-20 15:33 jim stasheff
2008-08-20 14:45 jim stasheff
2008-08-20 13:13 Michael Barr
2008-08-20 5:12 edubuc
2008-08-19 18:06 Vaughan Pratt
2008-08-19 6:28 mhebert
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