From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/4585 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steve Lack Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: Another terminological question... Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:58:46 +1000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1241020042 13946 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2009 15:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:47:22 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: rrosebru@mta.ca Mon Sep 15 19:28:59 2008 -0300 Return-path: Envelope-to: categories-list@mta.ca Delivery-date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:28:59 -0300 Original-Received: from Majordom by mailserv.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1KfMRd-0003yV-04 for categories-list@mta.ca; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:21:21 -0300 Original-Sender: cat-dist@mta.ca Precedence: bulk X-Keywords: X-UID: 55 Original-Lines: 59 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:4585 Archived-At: Dear Jeff, I had a chat about this with a couple of other long-time users of the terms tensor and cotensor (Ross Street and Dominic Verity). We all think that, given the current overburdening of the word tensor, this would be a sensible change. Regards, Steve Lack. On 12/09/08 7:56 PM, "Jeff Egger" wrote: > Dear all, > > In ``basic concepts of enriched category theory'', > Kelly writes: > >> Since the cone-type limits have no special position of >> dominancein the general case, we go so far as to call >> weighted limits simply ``limits'', where confusion >> seems unlikely. > > My question is this: why does he not apply the same > principle to the concept of powers? Instead, he > introduces the word ``cotensor'', apparently in order > to reserve the word ``power'' for that special case > which could sensibly be called ``discrete power''. > [This leads to the unfortunate scenario that a > ``cotensor'' is a sort of limit, while dually a > ``tensor'' is a sort of colimit.] Is there perhaps > some genuinely mathematical objection to calling > cotensors powers (and tensors copowers) which I may > have overlooked? > > Cheers, > Jeff. > > P.S. I specify ``genuinely mathematical'' because I > know that some people are opposed to any change of > terminology for any reason whatsoever. Obviously, > I disagree; in particular, I don't see that minor > terminological schisms such as monad/triple (even > compact/rigid/autonomous) are in any way detrimental > to the subject. > > I also disagree with the notion (symptomatic of the > curiously feudal mentality which seems to permeate the > mathematical community) that prestigious mathematicians > have more right to set terminology than the rest of us. > I see no correlation between mathematical talent and > good terminology; nor do I understand that a great > mathematician can be ``dishonoured'' by anything less > than strict adherence to their terminology---or notation, > for that matter. > >