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From: Andre.Rodin@ens.fr
To: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Bourbaki and Categories
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:09:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Kfkir-0004Vb-Nh@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)


Of course, you are right about a point, I missed it! I must confess I didn't
think about this example in precise terms. My claim is that sketch theory
doesn't fit the structuralist (Bourbaki-Hilbertian) pattern. It hardly
precisely fits the ancient Euclidean pattern either but there is a suggestive
analogy, which concerns the idea that certain basic objects like point, line
and circle *generate* the rest.
A further claim is this: a specific reason *why* sketch theory doesn't fit the
structuralist pattern is that in sketch theory (like in CT in general)
isomorphisms don't have the same distinguished status.

andrei





>I don't know what to say about the suggestion that a circle and a line
>make a sketch of which Euclidean plane geometry is a model.  I would think
>you would need a point too, since intersections are crucial.  Maybe
>complex projective geometry since then two lines intersect in one point
>(unless they coincide), a line and a circle in two (unless they are
>tangent or equal) and every pair of circles in four (ditto).  Maybe the
>exceptions could be handled in some sketch.  At any rate, it wold e
>interesting to try to sketch this in detail.  At any rate, I never thought
>about this before.

>Michael





             reply	other threads:[~2008-09-16 13:09 UTC|newest]

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2008-09-16 13:09 Andre.Rodin [this message]
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2008-09-23 18:01 jim stasheff
2008-09-22 21:09 Jacques Carette
2008-09-22 20:54 John Baez
2008-09-22  6:54 Meredith Gregory
2008-09-20 20:21 Andre Joyal
2008-09-20 17:17 Zinovy Diskin
2008-09-20  2:16 jim stasheff
2008-09-19 22:27 Mark.Weber
2008-09-19 22:21 Zinovy Diskin
2008-09-19 10:00 John Baez
2008-09-18 21:52 Andree Ehresmann
2008-09-18 20:38 cat-dist
2008-09-18 14:36 Michael Barr
2008-09-18 14:31 Michael Barr
2008-09-17 17:13 Andre Joyal
2008-09-17  9:17 R Brown
2008-09-17  4:36 Andre.Rodin
2008-09-17  1:30 Steve Lack
2008-09-16 15:32 Andre.Rodin
2008-09-16 14:47 Michael Barr
2008-09-16 14:20 jim stasheff
2008-09-16 11:24 Michael Barr
2008-09-16 10:27 Andre.Rodin
2008-09-16  8:57 Vaughan Pratt
2008-09-16  6:52 Andrej Bauer
2008-09-16  0:03 George Janelidze
2008-09-15 19:26 Dusko Pavlovic
2008-09-15 18:51 David Spivak
2008-09-15 11:59 Michael Barr
2008-09-15  7:58 Andree Ehresmann
2008-09-15  4:55 Andre.Rodin
2008-09-14 19:53 mjhealy
2008-09-14 10:24 R Brown
2008-09-13 17:17 Andre Joyal
2008-09-13 14:31 George Janelidze
2008-09-13  1:25 Colin McLarty
2008-09-12 20:34 Robert Seely
2008-09-12 18:46 Colin McLarty
2008-09-12 15:57 zoran skoda
2008-09-11 21:12 Walter Tholen

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