From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/4720 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Mislove Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: Science Citation Index Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:13:16 -0600 Message-ID: Reply-To: Michael Mislove NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1241020128 14543 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2009 15:48:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:48:48 +0000 (UTC) To: Categories list Original-X-From: rrosebru@mta.ca Fri Dec 5 09:39:15 2008 -0400 Return-path: Envelope-to: categories-list@mta.ca Delivery-date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:39:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Majordom by mailserv.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1L8ap2-0003kz-Np for categories-list@mta.ca; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:34:20 -0400 Original-Sender: categories@mta.ca Precedence: bulk X-Keywords: X-UID: 24 Original-Lines: 111 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:4720 Archived-At: [Note from moderator: For information, as publisher I have twice suggested TAC to Thomson. Three years ago it was rejected after a long delay with no explanation other than a reference to their "policy". When the suggestion was renewed last summer via email and their web site mentioned below I received no response at all, not even an acknowledgement, certainly no gift card.] Dear Colleagues, I wrote Thomson and asked how to find out what's covered, and also how to request a journal be included. Below is a copy of the response I received. I checked, and neither Cahiers nor T&AC are included (nor is ENTCS, sad to say). I also took a brief look at the leading essay on the ISI site about their rationalization for their selection process. The bottom line in my view is that they provide this service not for our needs, but for those who want quick and dirty guesstimates of the importance of publications. Administrators like to use such rankings, and publishers also focus on them, citing impact factor as a major aspect of the importance of journals they publish. We can all go to the site listed below to request that Cahiers and T&AC (and don't forget ENTCS!!) be included, but I'm afraid this community is too small to have an impact (sic) on this industry, so I think we should look elsewhere for the needs we have to be met. Of course, there is the lure of that $50 American Express gift card.... Best regards, Mike Mislove > > From: ts.cts-ps@thomson.com > Date: December 4, 2008 10:35:11 AM CST > To: mislove@tulane.edu > Subject: RE: Web of Science Journal Coverage CASE 254481 > > Dear Michael Mislove: > > Thank you for contacting Thomson Reuters Technical Support. > > For information on our journal coverage, please go to http://scientific.thomsonreuters.com/mjl/ > > On the "Master Journal List", please see "Journal Lists for > Searchable Databases" to see product-specific coverage. > > For information on our journal selection process, please go to http://thomsonreuters.com/business_units/scientific/free/essays/journalselection/ > > To recommend a journal for coverage , please go to http://scientific.thomsonreuters.com/info/journalrec/ > > If you are the publisher of the journal and wish to submit the > journal for coverage, please go to http://scientific.thomsonreuters.com/info/journalsubmission/ > > > Thank you for your interest in Thomson Reuters products. We need > your input and welcome your comments. For a chance to win a $50 > American Express Gift Cheque please complete our brief customer > satisfaction survey at: http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB225LGW6MAD3 > > Charles Maurer > Customer Technical Support Representative > Global Customer Support > > Thomson Reuters > +1 800.336.4474 > +1 215.386.0100 > http://scientific.thomsonreuters.com/support/techsupport > http://scientific.thomsonreuters.com > > Thomson Reuters and its product names and acronyms used herein are > trademarks, service marks, and registered trademarks used under > license. This email is for the sole use of the intended recipient > and contains information that may be privileged and/or confidential. > If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender by > return e-mail and delete this e-mail and any attachments. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2008, at 11:23 AM, John Baez wrote: > Dear category theorists - > > Thomson Scientific runs the well-known "Science Citation Index", which > "provides researchers, administrators, faculty, and students with > quick, > powerful access to the bibliographic and citation information they > need to > find relevant, comprehensive research data". I believe data from > this index > is used in tenure and promotion decisions at some universities. > > I just heard that "Theory and Applications of Categories" and > "Cahiers" are > not listed on the Science Citation Index, while - for example - > Elsevier's > journal "Homeopathy" is listed there. > > Is this true? Is there some way to improve the situation? > > Best, > jb > =============================================== Professor Michael Mislove Phone: +1 504 862-3441 Department of Mathematics FAX: +1 504 865-5063 Tulane University URL: http://www.math.tulane.edu/~mwm New Orleans, LA 70118 USA ===============================================