From: Toby Bartels <toby+categories@ugcs.caltech.edu>
To: categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: It it a good idea to use the term 2-group outside of its use in group thoery?
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:32:53 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1LTdHV-00059N-5B@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
Ronnie Brown wrote:
>I would like to raise an objection to using the term `2-group' as on nlab and elsehere since for the group theorists this has a specialised meaning: See the following wiki entry, especially the first 2 words:
>"In mathematics, given a prime number p, a p-group is [...]"
That the first 2 words are "In mathematics" rather than
"In group theory, a branch of mathematics," means nothing.
It's not like the Wikipedians had a discussion about it
and determined that p-groups appear throughout mathematics.
You do raise a good point, though. The term '2-group' is a special case
of both 'p-group' and 'n-group', and these mean very different things.
I wouldn't want to give up 'n-group', so I find '2-group' appropriate
when (as on the n-Category Lab) one is discussing n-groups as well.
But in your example about the structure of finite crossed modules,
one can simply say 'crossed module', making a note that some literature
calls a crossed module a '2-group' (or even 'strict 2-group').
>"[...] Such groups are also called primary."
>there are claims that crossed modules, for example, can be thought of as `2-dimensional groups'
In extreme cases, these show the way: both 'p-group' and 'n-group'
are abbreviations, for 'p-primary group' and 'n-dimensional higher group'.
So one can always use the full name or specify which usage one's paper follows.
--Toby
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