From: Toby Bartels <toby+categories@ugcs.caltech.edu>
To: categories list <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: "Kantor dust"
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:05:50 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1LXnSB-0000Ix-5J@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
Vaughan Pratt wrote in part:
>Toby Bartels claims it's obvious, in which case there should be a short
>construction of a nonconstant function from N^N (as a final coalgebra)
>to 2 (or to N, the codomain Toby spoke of) in the topos of sheaves on R.
> Toby, what is it?
An element s of N^N as a final coalgebra of X |-> N x X
decomposes into an element s0 of N and an element s+ of N^N.
In this notation, the easiest of the desired functions is s |-> s0.
Other functions N^N -> N include s |-> s+0, s++0, ...; there are more.
This can be done in any topos (actually in more categories than that).
If any of these is constant, then N is a terminal object,
so if it's an NNO (as it should be to justify the notation N^N)
we are in the terminal category (the inconsistent topos).
--Toby Bartels
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2009-02-12 9:00 Prof. Peter Johnstone
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2009-02-11 23:51 Vaughan Pratt
2009-02-11 22:16 Bhupinder Singh Anand
2009-02-11 19:56 Greg Meredith
2009-02-11 17:53 Vaughan Pratt
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2009-02-11 16:11 Michael Shulman
2009-02-11 15:55 Toby Kenney
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2009-02-11 5:49 Vaughan Pratt
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2009-02-10 22:18 Prof. Peter Johnstone
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2009-02-09 1:30 Toby Bartels
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2009-02-08 20:36 Steve Stevenson
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2009-02-07 0:37 Vaughan Pratt
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