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From: John Baez <john.c.baez@gmail.com>
To: categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Quantum computation and categories
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:38:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1NRcuG-0002VJ-OU@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)

Fred E.J. Linton wrote:


> Peter Selinger offered the thought that, considering
>
> > ... the category of finite dimensional complex
> > vector spaces vs. the category of finite dimensional Hilbert spaces.
> > They are equivalent ...
>
> Hmmm ... you mean just *any* linear transformation is allowed between two
> Hilbert spaces?
>

In applications to quantum mechanics people really want to work with both
unitary and self-adjoint operators, and often others as well.  So they work
with the category of finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces and *all* linear maps
between these.  As a mere category this is equivalent to the category of
finite-dimensional vector spaces - so to understand the "Hilbertness" of
Hilbert spaces, they introduce a dagger structure as well.

(The infinite-dimensional case would introduce extra wrinkles, like
unbounded self-adjoint operators.  It's possible that only after we treat
this case correctly can we declare that we know what's going on.  Perhaps
trying to treat both unitary and self-adjoint operators as morphisms in the
same category is simply a bad idea.  There are a lot of options worth
exploring.)


If so, I'm not so sure my Hilbert spaces are the same as yours :-) .
>

Indeed!  If you treat Hilbert spaces as "sets with structure", the obvious
morphisms are isometries - inner-product-preserving linear operators.  But
in quantum theory, Hilbert spaces are being used for something quite
different.  And so there's a struggle going on to understand this.

Best,
jb


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             reply	other threads:[~2010-01-04  0:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-04  0:38 John Baez [this message]
2010-01-04  5:02 ` Toby Bartels
2010-01-04  8:12 ` Vaughan Pratt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-01  4:44 Fred E.J. Linton
2009-12-30 14:52 Peter Selinger
2010-01-01 19:06 ` John Baez
2009-12-28  0:30 John Baez
2009-12-29  6:03 ` Toby Bartels
     [not found] ` <20091229060352.GA14681@ugcs.caltech.edu>
2009-12-29  7:30   ` John Baez
2009-12-29 14:33 ` Mark Weber

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