From: "Joyal, André" <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
To: <tholen@mathstat.yorku.ca>, <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Four problems corrected
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 09:58:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1O8tvP-0000gG-4b@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57B1@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
Dear All,
there was a few typographic errors my last message.
I am sending you the correction.
Best,
André
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Dear Walter,
Let me sketch a possible solution to problem 4
(along the lines you have suggested).
> If P: C --> S is a functor, I denote by V(P) the subcategory of C
>which has the same objects and as maps the vertical maps i.e. the f's such
>that P(f) is an identity. Let V be a subcategory of a (small) category C.
> What conditions >must the pair (C,V) satisfy in order that
> there exists a fibration P with domain C such that V = V(P)?
I first make a few observations on the properties
of a Grothendieck fibration P:C--->B.
1) If V is the subcategory of vertical maps in C,
then a morphism in C is cartesian with respect
to the functor P iff it is right orthogonal
(= it has the unique right lifting property)
to every map in V.
2) if R(V) is the class of maps in C which are right orthogonal
to every map in V, then every map f in C admits
a factorisation f=cv with v in V and c in R(V).
3) the base change of a map in V along a map in
R(V) exists and can be taken in V (up to an isomorphism).
4) A Grothendieck fibration P:C--->B is *connected* if its fibers
are connected categories. It is easy to see that every Grothendieck
fibration P:C--->B admits a factorisation P=SQ:C-->E-->B with Q:C-->E
a connected Grothendieck fibration and S:E-->B a discrete fibration
(the fibers of S are the connected components of the fibers of P).
The vertical maps of P coincide with
the vertical maps of Q. This shows that if the problem
has a solution, then there is one in which
the fibration P:C-->B is connected, in which case there is a
natural bijection between the objects of the
base category B and the set connected components
of the sub-category of vertical maps.
We shall suppose the the conditions 2-3 above are satisfied
but we will we will need an extra condition later.
The idea then is to declare that the objects of B
*are* the connected components of the subcategory V.
If C_0 and C_1 are two connected components of V,
consider the distributor D:C_0-->C_1
obtained by putting D(a,b)=C(a,b) for every object
a of C_0 and every object b of C_1.
The idea is to put
B(C_0,C_1)= colimit D
and to use the composition of arrows in C for
defining the composition of morphisms in B.
But we have to make sure that the composition
so defined is unambigous. And this is where
the extra condition 4 is popping out.
First, the distributor D:C_0-->C_1 is locally
corepresentable by a family. More precisely,
for any object b of C_1 the presheaf
D(-,b):C_0-->Set
is a coproduct of representable presheaves.
This follows directly from condition 2
(the representing objects are morphisms f:a-->b in R(V)).
Let us put
T(b)=\pi_0D(-,b)=colimit D(-,b)
This defines a functor T:C_1--->Set (which depends
on C_0). It follows from condition 3 that
the functor T inverts every morphism of C_1.
This shows that the distribuor D:C_0-->C_1
is of a very special type. The category
of elements of the functor T is a *covering* el(T)-->C_1
(a covering is a discrete fibration which
is also an opfibration). It follows
that the distributor D:C_0-->C_1 can be represented as a span
C_0<---el(T)--->C_1
in which the second leg is a covering.
Assuming that the conditions 2 and 3 are
satisfied, the problem of Benabou will have a solution
iff this covering is trivial (ie it is a product)
for any pair of connected components C_0
and C_1 of V. This is true for example
when the connected components of V are
simply connected.
Best,
André
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: tholen@mathstat.yorku.ca [mailto:tholen@mathstat.yorku.ca]
Date: ven. 30/04/2010 21:13
À: Joyal, André
Cc: categories@mta.ca; tholen@mathstat.yorku.ca
Objet : Re: categories: Four problems
In the article
J. Rosicky, W. Tholen, "Factorization, fibration and torsion", J.
Homotopy Theory and Related Structures (electronic) 2 (2007) 295-314
we prove a result closely related to Problems 3 and 4 below (variations
of which may well have appeared earlier?), as follows:
In a finitely complete category C, (E,M) is a simple reflective
factorization system of C (in the sense of Cassidy, Hebert, Kelly, J.
Austr. Math. Soc 38, (1985)) if, and only if, there exists a
prefibration P: C ---> B preserving the terminal object of C with E =
P^{-1}(Iso B) and M = {P-cartesian morphisms}.
Here "prefibration" means that for all objects c in C, the functors C/c
---> B/Pc induced by P have right adjoints, such that the induced
monads are idempotent. (For a fibration one asks the counits to be
identity morphisms.) Of course, Jean's question wants P^(-1)(Iso) to be
replaced by the non-iso-closed class P^(-1)(Identities), which prevents
the class from being part of an ordinary factorization system. But
(without having looked into this at all) I would suspect that there is
probably a (more cumbersome) reformulation of the theorem above which
would address that concern.
Regards,
Walter.
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2010-04-26 15:09 Four problems Joyal, André
2010-04-29 10:16 ` P.T.Johnstone
2010-05-01 1:13 ` tholen
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2010-05-02 1:21 ` RE : categories: " Joyal, André
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2010-05-02 13:58 ` Joyal, André [this message]
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2010-05-03 1:06 ` Four problems(corrected2) tholen
2010-05-03 22:36 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
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2010-05-07 15:21 ` Re=3A_Four_problems=28corrected2=29?= Joyal, André
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