From: "Joyal, André" <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
To: "David Roberts" <droberts@maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: fundamental_localic_groupoid?
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 11:41:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1O8u2V-00013i-On@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1O7qkA-00074P-KQ@mailserv.mta.ca>
David Roberts wrote:
>Going back to more general thoughts, given an arbitrary space X, the topos
>Sh(X) is the classifying topos of some localic groupoid G_X (Joyal-Tierney),
>which I thought (!) could be interpreted as the fundamental groupoid in nice
>situations. Here I suppose is my real question: what relation is there
>between G_X and the (ordinary) fundamental groupoid Pi_1(X)? I suppose a
>test case could be the Warsaw circle W: Pi_1(W) is equivalent to the
>discrete groupoid on the set {a,b}, and surely G_W is more than this.
I would like to make a few observations.
If my recollection is right, during the 1980's the dream of some topos theorists
(including myself) was to use atomic toposes as generalised K(pi,1)-spaces.
The dream has not materialised and it maybe foolish.
Another avenue is to extend Grothendieck Galois theory, since the
fundamental groupoid of a space classifies the covers of that space.
Eduardo Dubuc is presently developing a general theory of Galois toposes.
The fundamental Galois topos of a topos E could be defined as the
reflection E--->E(1) of E into the full subcategory of Galois toposes
over the base topos S. I am not supposing that S is the category of sets.
I am writing E(1) because I want to suggest that it is a stage of
a Postnikov tower of S-toposes:
E(-1)<---E(0)<---E(1)<----E(2)<----
The topos E(-1) is of course the image of the
geometric morphisme E-->S. The construction of E(-1)
depends on the factorisation system
(epimorphisms of toposes, sub-toposes)
The topos E(0) is the totally disconnected localic reflection of E
over the base topos S. Its construction
depends on the factorisation system
(connected morphisms of toposes, totally disconnected localic morphisms)
The topos E(1) is the Galois topos reflection of E
over the base topos S. Its construction
depends on the factorisation system
(1-connected morphisms of toposes, Galois morphisms)
The topos E(2) does not exists in general for the
simple reason that it is a 2-topos, not an ordinary
topos. A 2-topos is enriched over groupoids.
The whole theory depends on three factorisation systems
(epimorphisms of toposes, sub-toposes)
(connected morphisms of toposes, totally disconnected localic morphisms)
(1-connected morphisms of toposes, Galois morphisms)
The first factorisation system is well known and
was constructed a long time ago.
Excuse my ignorance, but I do not know if the
second factorisation system has been fully constructed.
Can someone tell me?
The third factorisation system was partially
constructed by Dubuc: he can factor
the morphism E-->S when S is the category of sets.
My observations concerning your problems
could be off the mark.
Best,
André
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-28 2:24 fundamental localic groupoid? David Roberts
2010-04-28 13:23 ` Ronnie Brown
2010-04-29 9:44 ` Steven Vickers
[not found] ` <7537a4a424c8ffa169a1fedb25839967@cs.bham.ac.uk>
2010-04-29 14:09 ` David Roberts
2010-05-02 15:41 ` RE : categories: Re: fundamental localic groupoi Joyal, André
2010-05-02 15:41 ` Joyal, André [this message]
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[not found] ` <SNT101-W38AA9F4EE8EBFB06CFD50FDFF10@phx.gbl>
2010-05-02 16:47 ` Re fundamental localic groupoid? Joyal, André
2010-05-03 14:32 ` Marta Bunge
2010-05-02 9:49 ` P.T.Johnstone
2010-05-02 15:57 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-05-02 23:39 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
[not found] ` <4BDE0D14.1040202@dm.uba.ar>
2010-05-03 0:35 ` David Roberts
[not found] ` <x2r222685c51005030045u41fa973dla349e1463ba004d@mail.gmail.com>
2010-05-03 21:59 ` David Roberts
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