From: Andre Joyal <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
To: "David Yetter" <dyetter@math.ksu.edu>, "Categories" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: bilax_monoidal_functors?=
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 12:14:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OBdFV-0002Sl-M0@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OAsOI-0001WM-Ro@mailserv.mta.ca>
Dear David
Thanks for clarifying the notion of Frobenius functor.
In the chapter 4 of the latest version of their book
http://www.math.tamu.edu/~maguiar/a.pdf
Aguiar and Mahajan introduce a notion of P-monoidal functor
for P is an operad.
If P is the Ass operad (whose models are monoids).
then a P-monoidal functor is a lax monoidal functor,
and if P is the Com operad (whose models are commutative monoids),
then a P-monoidal functor is a symmetric lax monoidal functor.
Their examples include a notion of Lie-monoidal functor (in the enriched case).
Dually, they introduce a notion of P-comonoidal functor
with the examples of colax (=oplax) monoidal functors
and of symmetric oplax monoidal functors.
But a bilax monoidal functor is not a P-monoidal functor
in the sense of Aguiar and Mahajan because the notion of bialgebra
is defined by a PROP, not by an operad. Similarly a Frobenius monoidal functor
is not a P-monoidal functor because the notion of Frobenius algebra
is defined by a PROP, not by an operad.
The notion of P-monoidal functor for P a PROP
is not defined in their book.
Any idea?
Best regards,
André
-------- Message d'origine--------
De: categories@mta.ca de la part de David Yetter
Date: ven. 07/05/2010 21:05
À: Categories
Objet : categories: bilax monoidal functors
John Baez could not recall whether bilax and Frobenius monoidal functors =
are the same.
The answer is no, in the usage I'd been familiar with, bilax meant =
simply equipped with both lax and oplax structures, while a Frobenius =
monoidal functor satisfies additional coherence relation which =
generalize the relations between the multiplication and comultiplication =
in a Frobenius algebra.
A bilax monoidal functor from the one-object monoidal category to VECT =
would be a vector-space with both an algebra and a coalgebra structure =
on it (no coherence relations relating them), while a Frobenius monoidal =
functor would be a Frobenius algebra. =20
Aguiar (with good reason), on the other hand, reserves bilax for =
functors equipped with coherence relations generalizing the relations =
between the operations and cooperations in a bialgebra, so that a bilax =
functor from the one-object monoidal category to VECT would be a =
bialgebra. This notion, however, only makes sense in the presence of =
braidings on the source and target.
I think Aguiar's usage should prevail, though we also need a name for =
functors between general monoidal categories which are simultaneously =
lax and oplax.
Best Thoughts,
David Yetter=
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-08 1:05 bilax monoidal functors David Yetter
2010-05-10 16:14 ` Andre Joyal [this message]
2010-05-16 23:57 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Richard Garner
2010-05-08 3:27 RE : bilax monoidal functors John Baez
2010-05-09 16:26 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Andre Joyal
2010-05-10 14:58 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Eduardo J. Dubuc
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2010-05-10 18:16 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= John Baez
2010-05-11 1:04 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Shulman
2010-05-11 8:28 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Batanin
2010-05-12 3:02 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Toby Bartels
2010-05-13 23:09 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Batanin
[not found] ` <4BEC8698.3090408@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-14 18:41 ` bilax_monoidal_functors? Toby Bartels
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