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From: Michael Shulman <shulman@uchicago.edu>
To: Jeff Egger <jeffegger@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: bilax_monoidal_functors
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:17:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OCuKA-0002N8-9l@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OBdIR-0002Y9-9K@mailserv.mta.ca>

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Jeff Egger <jeffegger@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> the fact that "autonomous category" is a special case (and, from one
> point of view, a rather uninteresting special case) of
> "star-autonomous category", whereas it sounds like "star-autonomous
> category" should mean an "autonomous category" with some extra
> structure.

I agree, it does sound like that, but there is at least a long
tradition of such names in mathematics (not that that makes
them a good thing).
(http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/red+herring+principle)

One reason I like "autonomous" to mean a symmetric monoidal category
in which all objects have duals is that the only alternative names I
have heard for such a thing convey misleading intuition to me.  They
are sometimes called "compact closed" or (I think) "rigid" monoidal
categories, but "compact" and "rigid" are words with definite and
inapplicable intuitive meanings for me.  Compact means small, finite,
bounded, inaccessible by directed joins, etc. and "rigid" means "having few
automorphisms," and I don't see that there is anything very compact or
rigid about such categories.  The only relationship I can think of is that a
compact subset of a Hausdorff space is closed, and a symmetric monoidal
category with duals for objects is also automatically closed, but of course
these two meanings of "closed" are totally different.  Perhaps someone
can enlighten me?

Mike


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-13 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-08  3:27 RE : bilax monoidal functors John Baez
2010-05-09 10:38 ` autonomous terminology: WAS: " Dusko Pavlovic
2010-05-09 22:41   ` Colin McLarty
2010-05-10 12:09   ` posina
2010-05-10 17:40   ` Jeff Egger
2010-05-09 16:26 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Andre Joyal
2010-05-10 14:58   ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-05-10 19:28   ` bilax_monoidal_functors Jeff Egger
2010-05-13 17:17     ` Michael Shulman [this message]
2010-05-14 14:43       ` terminology (was: bilax_monoidal_functors) Peter Selinger
2010-05-15 19:52         ` terminology Toby Bartels
2010-05-15  1:05       ` bilax_monoidal_functors Andre Joyal
     [not found]       ` <20100514144324.D83A35C275@chase.mathstat.dal.ca>
2010-05-15  4:41         ` terminology (was: bilax_monoidal_functors) Michael Shulman
2010-05-10 10:28 ` bilax monoidal functors Urs Schreiber
2010-05-11  3:17   ` bilax_monoidal_functors Andre Joyal
     [not found] ` <4BE81F26.4020903@dm.uba.ar>
2010-05-10 18:16   ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= John Baez
2010-05-11  1:04     ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Shulman
2010-05-12 20:02       ` calculus, homotopy theory and more Andre Joyal
     [not found]       ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57F6@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]         ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57F8@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-05-13  6:56           ` calculus, homotopy theory and more (corrected) Michael Batanin
     [not found]             ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57FE@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-05-13 22:59               ` Michael Batanin
     [not found]               ` <4BEC846B.5050000@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-14  2:53                 ` Andre Joyal
2010-05-11  8:28     ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Batanin
2010-05-12  3:02       ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Toby Bartels
2010-05-13 23:09         ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Batanin
2010-05-15 16:05           ` terminology Joyal, André
     [not found]         ` <4BEC8698.3090408@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-14 18:41           ` bilax_monoidal_functors? Toby Bartels
2010-05-15 16:54       ` bilax_monoidal_functors Jeff Egger
2010-05-14 14:34 ` bilax_monoidal_functors Michael Shulman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-15 16:23 bilax_monoidal_functors Jeff Egger
2010-05-11  1:04 bilax_monoidal_functors Fred E.J. Linton
2010-05-08  1:05 bilax monoidal functors David Yetter
2010-05-07 18:03 John Baez
2010-05-08  2:23 ` Andre Joyal
2010-05-08 23:11   ` Michael Batanin
2010-05-10 16:12     ` Toby Bartels
     [not found]   ` <4BE5EF9C.1060907@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-08 23:34     ` John Baez
2010-05-08  9:38 ` Steve Lack
     [not found] ` <C80B6E26.B13C%s.lack@uws.edu.au>
2010-05-08 23:19   ` John Baez
2010-05-06 23:02 Q. about " Steve Lack
2010-05-07 14:59 ` bilax " Joyal, André

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