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From: Toby Bartels <toby+categories@ugcs.caltech.edu>
To: categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: bilax_monoidal_functors?
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 11:41:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1ODKsa-00069O-AC@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BEC8698.3090408@ics.mq.edu.au>

Michael Batanin wrote:

>If we follow the principle "foo = 1 foo" and want to agree
>with historical low dimensional terminology we should call categories
>2-sets. Set = 1 Set. So, categories = 2 Set. Nobody will do it I guess.

Sorry, but I don't think that you understand what we (Mike and I) mean
when we say that "foo" should equal "1-foo".

In all of these examples, the word "1-foo" (or "1-tuply foo")
means the same as the historic low-dimensional term "foo":
* "n-category", with the usual meaning;
* "n-set", as you suggested above;
* "k-tuply monoidal", as used by John Baez;
* "k-braided monoidal", as used by Andre Joyal;
* "n-stack", with the usual meaning;
* "n-sheaf", as Mike Shulman suggested.

In only these examples, the word "1-foo" does ~not~ mean the same as "foo":
* "n-connected space", with the usual meaning;
* "n-category", with the new meaning that you suggested earlier;
* "k-braided monoidal", as you used it here:
   http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/5764/.

I like some of the terms in the first list more than others.
I find some of them sensibly numbered and some of them not
(which is part, but not all, of what goes into my liking them).
But I find all of them usable and I instantly understand them.

I object to the terms in the second list as inherently confusing,
even when I find them sensibly numbered.  Of the terms on that list,
only "n-connected space" has actually been sanctioned by history.
(But see http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/k-simply+connected+n-category
for an alternative approach.)


--Toby


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-14 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-08  3:27 RE : bilax monoidal functors John Baez
2010-05-09 10:38 ` autonomous terminology: WAS: " Dusko Pavlovic
2010-05-09 22:41   ` Colin McLarty
2010-05-10 12:09   ` posina
2010-05-10 17:40   ` Jeff Egger
2010-05-09 16:26 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Andre Joyal
2010-05-10 14:58   ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-05-10 19:28   ` bilax_monoidal_functors Jeff Egger
2010-05-13 17:17     ` bilax_monoidal_functors Michael Shulman
2010-05-14 14:43       ` terminology (was: bilax_monoidal_functors) Peter Selinger
2010-05-15 19:52         ` terminology Toby Bartels
2010-05-15  1:05       ` bilax_monoidal_functors Andre Joyal
     [not found]       ` <20100514144324.D83A35C275@chase.mathstat.dal.ca>
2010-05-15  4:41         ` terminology (was: bilax_monoidal_functors) Michael Shulman
2010-05-10 10:28 ` bilax monoidal functors Urs Schreiber
2010-05-11  3:17   ` bilax_monoidal_functors Andre Joyal
     [not found] ` <4BE81F26.4020903@dm.uba.ar>
2010-05-10 18:16   ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= John Baez
2010-05-11  1:04     ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Shulman
2010-05-12 20:02       ` calculus, homotopy theory and more Andre Joyal
     [not found]       ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57F6@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]         ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57F8@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-05-13  6:56           ` calculus, homotopy theory and more (corrected) Michael Batanin
     [not found]             ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57FE@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-05-13 22:59               ` Michael Batanin
     [not found]               ` <4BEC846B.5050000@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-14  2:53                 ` Andre Joyal
2010-05-11  8:28     ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Batanin
2010-05-12  3:02       ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Toby Bartels
2010-05-13 23:09         ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Batanin
2010-05-15 16:05           ` terminology Joyal, André
     [not found]         ` <4BEC8698.3090408@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-14 18:41           ` Toby Bartels [this message]
2010-05-15 16:54       ` bilax_monoidal_functors Jeff Egger
2010-05-14 14:34 ` bilax_monoidal_functors Michael Shulman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-08  1:05 bilax monoidal functors David Yetter
2010-05-10 16:14 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Andre Joyal
2010-05-16 23:57   ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Richard Garner

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