From: Jeff Egger <jeffegger@yahoo.ca>
To: " AndréJoyal" <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>,
"Michael Shulman" <shulman@uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: bilax_monoidal_functors
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 09:23:14 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1ODfLZ-0006Xy-7e@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
>> I guess that in the category of R-modules over a
> > commutative ring R,
> > a module M has a (good) dual iff it is finitely
> > generated projective
> > iff the endo-functor functor Hom(M,-) preserves all
> > colimits
> > (M is *compact* in a strong sense).
Obviously this is correct. But, on the other hand, Rel is a
compact closed category (also: V-Prof, for suitable choice
of V). So it is not necessarily the case that every object
of a compact closed category is small/finite/compact.
> Indeed, but in this case it is the objects of the category
> which are
> "compact," not the category itself. So if this is the
> argument, then
> a more natural term would be "locally compact" (clashing
> with "locally
> small," of course, but agreeing with "locally presentable"
> categories
> in which all objects are presentable).
Hmmm, even that last point is pretty tenuous... A locally
presentable category may have the property that every object
is presentable, but the converse is false. For example, Sup
(the category of complete lattices and supremum-preserving
maps) is not locally presentable; but it is monadic over Set
and therefore has the property in question.
> (I am *not* proposing to *actually* use "locally compact"
> -- I don't
> want to introduce yet another name for something that
> already has at
> least four names, even if none of the existing four are
> optimal.)
I disagree with this line of argument: if good terminology
can be found, it will kill off its rivals PDQ. In fact, I
have not been able to stop myself from thinking about this
issue, and would like to propose "simply closed category" as
a replacement for "autonomous category" (in the sense of:
monoidal category in which every object has a left and a
right dual). The point is that such a monoidal category is
(both left and right) closed; moreover, it is one in which
the "closed structure" (i.e. the pair of internal homs)
admits an unusually simple description.
One possible objection, aside from that which Mike has
already made, is that the word "simple" already has an
established mathematical meaning. My rebuttal to this is
that there are precedents for using an adverb independently
of the corresponding adjective. For example, I see no
connection between the "completely" in "completely positive
map" and any of the standard meanings of "complete".
Cheers,
Jeff.
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2010-05-15 16:23 Jeff Egger [this message]
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2010-05-11 8:28 bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Batanin
2010-05-15 16:54 ` bilax_monoidal_functors Jeff Egger
2010-05-11 1:04 bilax_monoidal_functors Fred E.J. Linton
2010-05-09 16:26 bilax_monoidal_functors?= Andre Joyal
2010-05-10 19:28 ` bilax_monoidal_functors Jeff Egger
2010-05-13 17:17 ` bilax_monoidal_functors Michael Shulman
2010-05-15 1:05 ` bilax_monoidal_functors Andre Joyal
2010-05-08 3:27 RE : bilax monoidal functors John Baez
2010-05-10 10:28 ` Urs Schreiber
2010-05-11 3:17 ` bilax_monoidal_functors Andre Joyal
2010-05-14 14:34 ` bilax_monoidal_functors Michael Shulman
2010-05-08 1:05 bilax monoidal functors David Yetter
2010-05-07 18:03 John Baez
2010-05-08 2:23 ` Andre Joyal
2010-05-08 23:11 ` Michael Batanin
2010-05-10 16:12 ` Toby Bartels
[not found] ` <4BE5EF9C.1060907@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-08 23:34 ` John Baez
2010-05-08 9:38 ` Steve Lack
[not found] ` <C80B6E26.B13C%s.lack@uws.edu.au>
2010-05-08 23:19 ` John Baez
2010-05-06 23:02 Q. about " Steve Lack
2010-05-07 14:59 ` bilax " Joyal, André
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