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From: Jeff Egger <jeffegger@yahoo.ca>
To: John Baez <john.c.baez@gmail.com>, categories <categories@mta.ca>,
Subject: Re: bilax_monoidal_functors
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1ODfO3-0006cj-EC@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OBzhU-0007X1-2F@mailserv.mta.ca>

>> But I think "braided = doubly monoidal" is even
> > better.  After all, a
> > monoidal category has one tensor product; a braided
> > monoidal category has
> > two compatible tensor products, and a symmetric
> > monoidal category has three.
> 
> The trouble is that n-monoidal  categories already exist.
> They were
> introduced my Balteanu, Fioderowicz, Shwantzl and Vogt.
> This is why I
> also see n-tuply monoidal as confusing. I do not say that
> they sound
> identical but certainly very close to each other.

This is a strong point.  Obviously n-tuply monoidal category
should mean category with n "compatible" monoidal structures;
but there many possible meanings of "compatible".  One choice 
leads to a single monoidal structure with an (n-1)-braiding;
but a different  choice leads to the notion of BFSV.  In fact,
I think that even the BFSV  notion is too strict---it forces 
all the units to be the same, where I think one should allow
them to be different (in general).  That is, I think it would
be reasonable to use "doubly monoidal category" to mean 
(pseudo)monoid internal to LAX (rather than STRONG, or even 
NORMAL).  

Cheers,
Jeff.





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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-15 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-08  3:27 RE : bilax monoidal functors John Baez
2010-05-09 10:38 ` autonomous terminology: WAS: " Dusko Pavlovic
2010-05-09 22:41   ` Colin McLarty
2010-05-10 12:09   ` posina
2010-05-10 17:40   ` Jeff Egger
2010-05-09 16:26 ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Andre Joyal
2010-05-10 14:58   ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-05-10 19:28   ` bilax_monoidal_functors Jeff Egger
2010-05-13 17:17     ` bilax_monoidal_functors Michael Shulman
2010-05-14 14:43       ` terminology (was: bilax_monoidal_functors) Peter Selinger
2010-05-15 19:52         ` terminology Toby Bartels
2010-05-15  1:05       ` bilax_monoidal_functors Andre Joyal
     [not found]       ` <20100514144324.D83A35C275@chase.mathstat.dal.ca>
2010-05-15  4:41         ` terminology (was: bilax_monoidal_functors) Michael Shulman
2010-05-10 10:28 ` bilax monoidal functors Urs Schreiber
2010-05-11  3:17   ` bilax_monoidal_functors Andre Joyal
     [not found] ` <4BE81F26.4020903@dm.uba.ar>
2010-05-10 18:16   ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= John Baez
2010-05-11  1:04     ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Shulman
2010-05-12 20:02       ` calculus, homotopy theory and more Andre Joyal
     [not found]       ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57F6@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
     [not found]         ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57F8@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-05-13  6:56           ` calculus, homotopy theory and more (corrected) Michael Batanin
     [not found]             ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F57FE@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-05-13 22:59               ` Michael Batanin
     [not found]               ` <4BEC846B.5050000@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-14  2:53                 ` Andre Joyal
2010-05-11  8:28     ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Batanin
2010-05-12  3:02       ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Toby Bartels
2010-05-13 23:09         ` bilax_monoidal_functors?= Michael Batanin
2010-05-15 16:05           ` terminology Joyal, André
     [not found]         ` <4BEC8698.3090408@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-14 18:41           ` bilax_monoidal_functors? Toby Bartels
2010-05-15 16:54       ` Jeff Egger [this message]
2010-05-14 14:34 ` bilax_monoidal_functors Michael Shulman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-15 16:23 bilax_monoidal_functors Jeff Egger
2010-05-11  1:04 bilax_monoidal_functors Fred E.J. Linton
2010-05-08  1:05 bilax monoidal functors David Yetter
2010-05-07 18:03 John Baez
2010-05-08  2:23 ` Andre Joyal
2010-05-08 23:11   ` Michael Batanin
2010-05-10 16:12     ` Toby Bartels
     [not found]   ` <4BE5EF9C.1060907@ics.mq.edu.au>
2010-05-08 23:34     ` John Baez
2010-05-08  9:38 ` Steve Lack
     [not found] ` <C80B6E26.B13C%s.lack@uws.edu.au>
2010-05-08 23:19   ` John Baez
2010-05-06 23:02 Q. about " Steve Lack
2010-05-07 14:59 ` bilax " Joyal, André

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