From: "Prof. Peter Johnstone" <P.T.Johnstone@dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
To: Michael Barr <barr@math.mcgill.ca>
Subject: Re: "injective" terminology
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:27:06 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OEt63-0006zq-KN@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OEVlf-0007BM-2m@mailserv.mta.ca>
Like Michael, I've occasionally been bothered by the conflict between
the two uses of "injective". However, for me it's the use of the word
as a dual for "projective" that feels wrong; the opposite of "pro" is
not "in" but "con" (or "contra"). Also, the use of "injective"
and "surjective" for maps is so well established throughout
mathematics that I don't think there is any chance of changing it.
I've thought of using "coprojective" for the dual of "projective";
but for anyone with a classical education that word means
"shit-throwing".
Peter Johnstone
----------------------
On Tue, 18 May 2010, Michael Barr wrote:
> Since there has been such a lively discussion of language (which I have
> kept out of because I have seen too many papers start out by saying, "By
> ring, we mean a commutative ring with unit"), I though I would bring up
> one that has long bothered me. There are too many contexts in which you
> have a concrete category (say of compact hausdorff spaces) in which you
> are dealing with both injective objects and 1-1 maps that I feel we need a
> better word for the latter than "injective". Of course, I could just
> revert to 1-1 and perhaps I will. But we have "projective" and
> "surjective" for the dual. This suggests "superjective", except that
> that is so ugly.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Michael
>
> P.S. I originally used *-autonomous to mean symmetric and then I wrote a
> paper called, "Non-symmetric *-autonomous categories", so I am just as
> guilty.
>
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2010-05-18 13:38 Michael Barr
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2010-05-19 9:59 ` Michael Barr
2010-05-20 22:04 ` George Janelidze
2010-05-21 16:35 ` Toby Bartels
2010-05-22 15:48 ` Timothy Porter
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2010-05-22 17:08 ` Toby Bartels
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2010-05-20 22:27 ` Michael Barr
2010-05-19 7:44 Fred E.J. Linton
2010-05-22 20:50 Fred E.J. Linton
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