From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/5836 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joyal=2C_Andr=E9?= Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re terminology: Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:40:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joyal=2C_Andr=E9?= NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274622156 3007 80.91.229.12 (23 May 2010 13:42:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 13:42:36 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ronnie Brown" , "Urs Schreiber" , Original-X-From: categories@mta.ca Sun May 23 15:42:34 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mailserv.mta.ca ([138.73.1.1]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGBRq-0005RJ-1O for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 15:42:34 +0200 Original-Received: from Majordom by mailserv.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1OGAzq-0001a7-15 for categories-list@mta.ca; Sun, 23 May 2010 10:13:38 -0300 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Thread-Index: Acr5xT/gBgtXNG9dR5KQmbOAQ94MOgAEyL3B Original-Sender: categories@mta.ca Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:5836 Archived-At: Dear Urs and Ronnie, As you know, there are important differences between category theory and = classical algebra.=20 One lies in the fact that equivalent categories are considered to be the = "same",=20 even if when they are not isomorphic. In category theory most constructions are yielding an object which is not unique, but only unique up to some kind of equivalence,=20 at best unique up to a unique isomorphism. The general idea seems to be that an object is well defined if its different incarnations are connected by a contractible network of equivalences. It seems to me that the challenge of higher dimensional algebra=20 is to learn how to handle constructions whose output are not unique but only unique only up to a contractible network. Of course, we may decide to replace these constructions by ones producing a truly unique object, but the replacement seems often = artificial. For example, we may decide to choose a representative for the cartesian product of every pair of objects in a category.=20 We are then lead to distinguish between two kinds of product preserving functors. The functors preserving the=20 product strictly are given a role, but this seems artificial to me. I do not want to be negative about the idea of turning higher dimensional algebra into ordinary algebra, because we may learn something in the process. Also, Quillen homotopical algebra can be regarded as a method for reducing higher categorical and homotopy algebra to ordinary categorical algebra. However, there was a real gain in moving from a purely algebraic = description of higher categories to one based on simplicial sets and homotopical = algebra. The category of quasi-categories is cartesian closed, a property which = appears to be false for the category of fibrant objects in the "algebraic" = models. This is also true for the category of n-quasi-category (Rezk). =20 Best, Andr=E9 -------- Message d'origine-------- De: categories@mta.ca de la part de Ronnie Brown Date: ven. 21/05/2010 13:00 =C0: Urs Schreiber; categories@mta.ca Objet : categories: Re terminology: =20 Dear Urs, Thanks for your friendly and detailed reply. I should say that I also feel responsible for defending and advertising the work of my long time collaborator, Philip Higgins, without whom of course much of the work would not have got done, certainly not so quickly. His last contribution to maths was in 2005; I helped with the presentation of his TAC paper, but insisted that it showed `you know the lion from his claw', as all the ideas were his. He is happily playing the violin and making string instruments from bare blocks of wood! (That shows his craftmanship.) He remembers the project as very hard work but a lot of fun! You mention the process from category to infinity-category. Actually that was why we introduced the term infinity-category in 34. (with P.J. HIGGINS), ``The equivalence of $\infty$-groupoids and crossed complexes'', {\em Cah. Top. G\'eom. Diff.} 22 (1981) 371-386. See also: 33. (with P.J. HIGGINS), ``The equivalence of $\omega$-groupoids and cubical $T$-complexes'', {\em Cah. Top. G\'eom. Diff.} 22 (1981) 349-370. ........ [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]