From: "Joyal, André" <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
To: "Vaughan Pratt" <pratt@cs.stanford.edu>,
"categories list" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Are mathematical proofs incomparable with proofs in other disciplines?
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:55:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OXZ0p-0003sC-Ch@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OXDSN-0003cA-W1@mailserv.mta.ca>
Dear Vaughan,
I agree with your definition:
"A proof is sufficient evidence for the truth of a proposition,"
The article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof
does not discuss the idea (of Paul Lorenzen) that a mathematical proof
is essentially a winning strategy in a formal game.
I first learned the idea from Andreas Blass
who introduced the game semantic of linear logic,
http://arxiv.org/abs/math/9310211
A proof can be viewed as an argumentation to convince others of the validity of a statement.
In mathematics, the argumentation must be solid enough to resist
any conter-argumentation by an ideal opponent.
It can be compared to a winning strategy in a game with two players,
one defending a statement and the other attacking it.
Lorenzen associates to every mathematical statement S a formal game with two players G(S),
the defender and the attacker. The defender has a winning strategy iff the statement has a formal proof.
The rules of the games for a proof in intuitinistic logic differ
from the rules for a proof in classical logic.
In other words, the rules of the games are determining the logic and vice versa.
I believe that game semantic is putting some light on the origin of logic.
I guess that logic was discovered by peoples debating in a democratic manner.
All communities need to choose between different courses of actions.
There are many answers to the question: how should this choice made?
One was given by Plato who favored a government
by the "philosopher king" who "loves the sight of truth":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato#The_State
Plato does not like Athenian democracy because it is imperfect.
He observes that its political debates are manipulated by sophists.
I agree with Plato that democracy is imperfect.
But it should be improved, not condemned.
Logic is anti-authoritarian since it wishes to convince, not to coerce.
Best,
André
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-09 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-08 1:21 Vaughan Pratt
2010-07-09 14:10 ` Michael Barr
2010-07-10 16:10 ` Ronnie Brown
2010-07-09 19:55 ` Joyal, André [this message]
2010-07-15 7:31 ` Vaughan Pratt
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1007090957550.6911@msr03.math.mcgill.ca>
2010-07-14 6:15 ` Vaughan Pratt
2010-07-09 15:29 John Baez
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