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From: Ronnie Brown <ronnie.profbrown@btinternet.com>
To: Michael Barr <barr@math.mcgill.ca>
Cc: Vaughan Pratt <pratt@cs.stanford.edu>,
	categories list <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Are mathematical proofs incomparable with proofs in other disciplines?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:10:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OYQA1-00002y-LY@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OXYt4-0003k7-FN@mailserv.mta.ca>

My suggestion is that mathematical proofs still require a mathematical 
landscape in which to find our way. Michael Barr points out the problems 
of finding a completely `logical' proof. I propose the analogy of giving 
directions to the station, such as `go out of the house, turn right, go 
straight on until ..., etc., etc.' We don't need to specify all the cracks 
in the pavement, but we may need to warn of holes due to roadworks!

The aura of certainty in a mathematical proof is partly because the 
`conceptual landscape' has been worked up over centuries, in terms of 
convenience and usability, and tested by thousands. Hopefully, arguments 
come to be produced which seem inevitable, indeed aesthetic, rather than 
ad hoc.

Are there computer theorem provers which can work at a `landscape level'?

The assumption is also that there are no cracks in our mathematical universe.

On the more general point, I did hear of a University Vice Chancellor who 
asked his staff for a series of lectures on `The notion of validity in my 
subject'.

Ronnie Brown









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  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-10 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-08  1:21 Vaughan Pratt
2010-07-09 14:10 ` Michael Barr
2010-07-10 16:10   ` Ronnie Brown [this message]
2010-07-09 19:55 ` Joyal, André
2010-07-15  7:31   ` Vaughan Pratt
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1007090957550.6911@msr03.math.mcgill.ca>
2010-07-14  6:15   ` Vaughan Pratt
2010-07-09 15:29 John Baez

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