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From: "Joyal, André" <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
To: "Sergey Goncharov" <sergey@informatik.uni-bremen.de>,
	<categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Tensor of monads
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:44:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OexzO-0000bf-Pr@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OeHE4-0004hy-TA@mlist.mta.ca>

Dear Sergey,

Here is a simple example, based on the ordered class ORD
of all ordinals numbers. The subclass LIMIT of all limit ordinals 
is reflexive in ORD. Let us denote by L the resulting reflection operator.
Similarly, the subclass SUCC of all successor ordinals is reflexive in ORD.
Let us denote by S the resulting reflection operator. 
The operators L and S cannot be bounded simultaneously
by a reflection operator (= monad) since the classes
LIMIT and SUCC have an empty intersection.

Best,
Andre



-------- Message d'origine--------
De: Sergey Goncharov [mailto:sergey@informatik.uni-bremen.de]
Date: mer. 28/07/2010 10:02
À: categories@mta.ca
Objet : categories: Tensor of monads
 
Dear categorists,

in "Combining algebraic e?ects with continuations", by Hyland et al. the 
authors say carefully: "In general, the tensor product of two arbitrary 
monads seems not to exist.." without providing a counterexample though, 
presumably because they did not have any. Was there any progress 
reported on this issue since then? Or maybe someone can even make up a 
counterexample right on the nail?

Thanks,

-- 
Sergey Goncharov, Junior Researcher

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-30  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-28 14:02 Sergey Goncharov
2010-07-29  8:21 ` N.Bowler
2010-07-29  9:18 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2010-07-29 10:29 ` Michael Barr
2010-07-31  8:45   ` Richard Garner
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTinxyVQ1fXu7DLWu4CUF3AP2KPX6PLQFDB+zG4Ef@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-31 12:48     ` Michael Barr
     [not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1007291006210.5174@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
2010-07-29 13:24   ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1007291422370.5174@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
2010-07-30  1:02     ` Sergey Goncharov
2010-07-31 20:34       ` Eckmann-Hilton (Was: Tensor of monads) Toby Bartels
     [not found]     ` <4C5224A4.4000105@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
2010-07-30 10:37       ` Tensor of monads Prof. Peter Johnstone
2010-07-30 22:41         ` Tom Leinster
2010-08-01 19:49           ` Ronnie Brown
2010-08-02  9:47           ` Ronnie Brown
2010-08-01  0:31         ` Richard Garner
2010-08-02 19:55           ` Paul Levy
2010-08-03  6:39             ` Richard Garner
     [not found]             ` <AANLkTimd202AX=3hUqU9ABkKUy9Z4Loh1RXTiDgVZ3Ku@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-03 11:03               ` Paul Levy
2010-08-09 20:26                 ` Paul Levy
2010-08-05 20:06           ` Sergey Goncharov
2010-08-08 19:24             ` Gordon Plotkin
2010-07-30  3:44 ` Joyal, André [this message]
     [not found] ` <AANLkTin5+paq8sP-eVjdf8rZOyA-z=t6QzAhCqVUsyQi@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-01  9:13   ` Richard Garner
2010-08-02 14:17     ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
     [not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1008021514290.18118@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
2010-08-02 21:12   ` Richard Garner

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