From: Richard Garner <r.h.g.garner@gmail.com>
To: Michael Barr <barr@math.mcgill.ca>
Cc: Sergey Goncharov <sergey@informatik.uni-bremen.de>, categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Tensor of monads
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:45:14 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OfK2B-0001y6-0Z@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OedO1-00037l-E2@mlist.mta.ca>
Isn't P * P isomorphic to P, by the Eckmann-Hilton argument?
On 29 July 2010 20:29, Michael Barr <barr@math.mcgill.ca> wrote:
> There are examples in Ernie Manes's 1967 thesis. Perhaps the simplest
> (although it piggybacks on the non-existence of free complete boolean
> algebras that had been know for only a few years at the time) is that the
> tensor product of the complete sup semilattice triple with itself doesn't
> exist. The triple takes a set X to 2^X and can be interpreted also as the
> complete inf semilattice triple. On the other hand, I think Manes showed
> that the tensor product of the beta triple with itself exists, but is one
> of the two inconsistent triples, the one that fixes the empty set and
> takes all non-empty sets to one point. (The other inconsistent triple
> takes all sets to one point.)
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Sergey Goncharov wrote:
>
> Dear categorists,
>>
>> in "Combining algebraic eects with continuations", by Hyland et al. the
>>
>> authors say carefully: "In general, the tensor product of two arbitrary
>> monads seems not to exist.." without providing a counterexample though,
>> presumably because they did not have any. Was there any progress reported
>> on
>> this issue since then? Or maybe someone can even make up a counterexample
>> right on the nail?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-28 14:02 Sergey Goncharov
2010-07-29 8:21 ` N.Bowler
2010-07-29 9:18 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2010-07-29 10:29 ` Michael Barr
2010-07-31 8:45 ` Richard Garner [this message]
[not found] ` <AANLkTinxyVQ1fXu7DLWu4CUF3AP2KPX6PLQFDB+zG4Ef@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-31 12:48 ` Michael Barr
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1007291006210.5174@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
2010-07-29 13:24 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1007291422370.5174@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
2010-07-30 1:02 ` Sergey Goncharov
2010-07-31 20:34 ` Eckmann-Hilton (Was: Tensor of monads) Toby Bartels
[not found] ` <4C5224A4.4000105@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
2010-07-30 10:37 ` Tensor of monads Prof. Peter Johnstone
2010-07-30 22:41 ` Tom Leinster
2010-08-01 19:49 ` Ronnie Brown
2010-08-02 9:47 ` Ronnie Brown
2010-08-01 0:31 ` Richard Garner
2010-08-02 19:55 ` Paul Levy
2010-08-03 6:39 ` Richard Garner
[not found] ` <AANLkTimd202AX=3hUqU9ABkKUy9Z4Loh1RXTiDgVZ3Ku@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-03 11:03 ` Paul Levy
2010-08-09 20:26 ` Paul Levy
2010-08-05 20:06 ` Sergey Goncharov
2010-08-08 19:24 ` Gordon Plotkin
2010-07-30 3:44 ` Joyal, André
[not found] ` <AANLkTin5+paq8sP-eVjdf8rZOyA-z=t6QzAhCqVUsyQi@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-01 9:13 ` Richard Garner
2010-08-02 14:17 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1008021514290.18118@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
2010-08-02 21:12 ` Richard Garner
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