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From: Michael Barr <barr@math.mcgill.ca>
To: John Kennison <JKennison@clarku.edu>
Cc: Peter Freyd <pjf@seas.upenn.edu>,
	"categories@mta.ca" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Question on choosing subobjects consistently
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 09:32:12 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OpscC-00017j-CZ@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OpWch-0006dV-U3@mlist.mta.ca>

Here is what Grothendieck actually said (in our translation):

"Thus a subobject of $A$ is not simply an object of \C, but an
object $B$, together with a monomorphism $u:B\to A$ called the
\emph{canonical injection} of $B$ into $A$.  (Nonetheless, by abuse of
language, we will often designate a subobject of $A$ by the name $B$
of the corresponding object of \C.)  The containment relation defines an
\emph{order} relation (not merely a preorder relation) on the class of
subobjects of $A$.  It follows from the above that the subobjects of
$A$ that are contained in a subobject $B$ are identified with the
subobjects of $B$, this correspondence respecting the natural
order."

It all depends on what he meant by "are identified with".  Maybe I am
making too much of this.  He regularly uses "=" for isomorphism (which I
have mostly changed in the translation).

Michael


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-29 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-28 12:24 Peter Freyd
2010-08-28 14:35 ` John Kennison
2010-08-29 13:32   ` Michael Barr [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-26 22:09 Michael Barr
2010-08-28 10:10 ` John Kennison

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