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* Re: String diagrams, adjunction and autonomous categories.
@ 2010-09-06 16:20 André Joyal
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From: André Joyal @ 2010-09-06 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Selinger; +Cc: baez, categories

Dear Peter,

If I recall it right, string diagrams were first introduced
by Kelly and MacLane as a visual device for analysing
the structure of the arrows of a free monoidal closed category.
The device was not perfect but was giving some real insights.
Max Kelly showed later that it was a complete description in the  
compact case.
I believe that Penrose was inspired by Feynman's diagrams
when he introduced his graphical tensor calculus (sometimes later).
I have first learned about Penrose's diagram from Max, in the late 70's.

One of the best way to learn something is to reinvent it.
Mathematics need to be constantly reinvented to stay alive and prosper.
Every new generation is reinventing mathematics.
Category theorists are permanently reinventing mathematics.

I guess we also need to remember the past.

Best,
andre


Le 10-09-05 à 22:05, Peter Selinger a écrit :

> I agree that string diagrams for closed monoidal categories are quite
> a bit subtler than those for autonomous categories.
>
> Of course, because of the forgetful functor from autonomous categories
> to closed monoidal categories, there's a unique functor from the free
> closed monoidal category (over some generators) to the free autonomous
> category (over the same generators), i.e., string diagrams. So one can
> say, without doing any technical work, that morphisms of the free
> closed monoidal category are "certain" string diagrams, possibly with
> additional structure.
>
> The technical questions then are: which diagrams are "certain" ones
> (i.e., what's the image of this functor), and what, if anything, is
> the additional structure? One obvious piece of extra structure is that
> there are two binary connectives instead of one, namely, tensor and
> '-o'. In the Rosetta Stone paper (p.30), Baez and Stay use "clasps" to
> bind two strings together, to indicate an object A -o B. I am not sure
> how this will work for nested operations, such as (((A tensor B) -o C)
> tensor D) -o ((E -o F) tensor G). As John has already pointed out, the
> paper does not give details or theorems.
>
> On the other hand, the question of such string diagrams has been very
> extensively studied by logicians under the name "proof nets for linear
> logic". It turns out that one usually needs a condition logicians call
> a "correctness criterion" (originally invented by Girard) to identify
> the string diagrams that actually correspond to legal morphisms.
> Alternatively, it is possible to just draw a box around every
> operation (as done by Baez and Stay), and say that the legal diagrams
> are those built up using the operations of closed monoidal categories.
> But that is really just a graphical way of displaying the original
> term, together with its forgetful image in string diagrams.
>
> Most work on proof nets is for classical linear logic (corresponding
> to *-autonomous categories). Looking for the case of closed monoidal
> categories only, we need to look for intuitionistic linear logic.  By
> googling "proof nets for intuitionistic linear logic", I found this
> 2008 paper by Lamarche (based on a 1994 technical report), which seems
> to contain the answer, with theorems:
>
>  http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/34/73/36/PDF/prfnet1.pdf
>
> That paper actually contains a bit more than just the monoidal closed
> case; it also shows how to extend the diagrams to cartesian product
> (in addition to tensor), and it adds the exponential operator "!" of
> linear logic, in the presence of which one can then have diagrams for
> *cartesian* closed categories as well. I think an even earlier version
> of such string diagrams may already appear in Regnier's 1992 thesis
> (http://iml.univ-mrs.fr/~regnier/articles/these.ps.gz).
>
> So I guess the point is that one can save some time by exploiting what
> logicians have already done, using the connections between logic,
> category theory, and string diagrams, rather than re-inventing the
> wheel. Which is also precisely the point of the Baez/Stay "Rosetta
> Stone" paper.
>
> -- Peter
>

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* String diagrams, adjunction and autonomous categories.
@ 2010-09-03  7:07 John Baez
  2010-09-06  2:05 ` Peter Selinger
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From: John Baez @ 2010-09-03  7:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: categories

Mike Shulman wrote:

On the other hand, am I right that you (John) have also written about
> string diagrams in closed (non-autonomous) monoidal categories?


Right.


> Those are a bit subtler, and I don't recall them in the work of Joyal and
> Street (am I wrong?).


I think you're right - they're subtler, and I haven't seen anyone else using
them.  I never proved any *theorems* about them.   But I used them
extensively in my course on "Classical versus quantum computation", starting
here:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/qg-fall2006/index.html#computation

I wanted to explain how beta-reduction in the lambda calculus is like
"straightening a zig-zag".

There's a quick summary of this material in that "Rosetta Stone" paper with
Mike Stay, mentioned earlier:

http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.0340


>  The original question used the word "autonomous" but the notation used
> suggested a merely closed monoidal category, so perhaps that's what he had
> in mind.
>

Oh, okay.  Yeah, I was sort of disappointed that Micah credited me for
string diagrams in the autonomous case, where I didn't invent them, instead
of the closed case, where maybe I did.

Best,
jb


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* Re: String diagrams, adjunction and autonomous categories.
@ 2010-08-31  5:06 John Baez
  2010-09-02 18:23 ` Michael Shulman
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From: John Baez @ 2010-08-31  5:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: categories

Micah wrote:

Incidentally, although I'm not sure that I'm familiar with the work of Baez
> to which you refer, I would imagine that the use of string diagrams to
> describe units and counits in an autonomous category is considerably older,
> at least as far back as "Planar Diagrams and Tensor Algebra" by Joyal and
> Street (available on the website of the latter) from 1988.
>

He was probably talking about these popularizations:

A prehistory of n-categorical physics, with Aaron Lauda
http://arxiv.org/abs/0908.2469

Physics, logic, computation and topology: a Rosetta stone, with Mike Stay
http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.0340

which cite the work of Joyal and Street, though sadly not the paper you
mention.

Best,
jb


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* String diagrams, adjunction and autonomous categories.
@ 2010-08-29  5:48 David Leduc
  2010-08-30  2:31 ` Micah Blake McCurdy
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From: David Leduc @ 2010-08-29  5:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: categories

As shown by Baez, in an autonomous category the isomorphism hom(A (X) B, C)
= hom (B, A -o C), when drawn as a string diagram, is like the bending of
the input wire A to make it an output.

Now one can also draw string diagrams to represent the zigzag equations
between the adjoint pair of functors  _ (X) B and B -o _.

How does the latter diagram relate to the former one?


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