From: Michael Barr <barr@math.mcgill.ca>
To: Thorsten Palm <palm@iti.cs.tu-bs.de>
Cc: Robert Pare <pare@mathstat.dal.ca>, categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Canonical quotients
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:56:17 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OvUPE-00039B-O5@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.11009122301030.7520-100000@George.iti.cs.tu-bs.de>
But that's only an equivalent category; everyone knows that can be done.
Even easier is the dual category of complete atomic boolean algebras,
which has canonical subobjects.
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Thorsten Palm wrote:
>
> Robert Pare hat am 12.09.10 geschrieben:
>
>>
>> Peter Freyd's and John Kennison's examples definitively settled
>> Mike Barr's question about canonical subobjects that compose. But
>> I had started thinking about it and had what I thought would be a
>> nice example. The category of sets has canonical quotients (equivalence
>> classes) but they don't compose. I think there is no choice that do,
>> but so far I haven't been able to prove or disprove this. Anybody?
>
> There is. First consider the full subcategory of partitions; that is,
> sets whose elements happen to be non-empty, pairwise disjoint sets. It
> has an obvious choice of quotient maps that does the trick, namely
> those maps for which each element of the target is the union of its
> fibre. For the remaining sets as sources, additionally choose the
> identity in case of the trivial quotient, the canonical map otherwise.
>
> Thorsten
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-13 18:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-12 12:04 Robert Pare
2010-09-12 21:18 ` Thorsten Palm
2010-09-13 18:56 ` Michael Barr [this message]
2010-09-13 14:09 Peter Selinger
2010-09-14 15:06 Thorsten Palm
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