categories - Category Theory list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Michael Shulman <shulman@math.uchicago.edu>
To: Toby Bartels <toby@ugcs.caltech.edu>
Cc: categories <categories@mta.ca>,
	David Leduc
	<david.leduc6@googlemail.com>,droberts@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Subject: Re: Evil in bicategories
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:28:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OveOZ-00025z-9z@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Michael Shulman
<shulman@math.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> This is also true of Batanin's definition, which takes as basic
> underlying data a globular set....potentially including (I believe)
> pretty much all definitions of higher category.

I wrote this without thinking hard enough; sorry.  Of course, one also
has to consider the extra structure placed on the underlying data.
Extra structure of the "horn-filling" variety, as in Joyal's and
Street's definitions, consists of conditional assertions that certain
dependent types are inhabited, which is certainly "non-evil."  I would
expect that all the "non-algebraic" definitions could be dealt with
similarly; for instance, the Simpson-Tamsamani definition involves
also the assertion that certain maps of (n-1)-categories are
equivalences, which should itself be a "non-evil" assertion based
again on inhabitation of certain dependent types.  But it would be
tricky to write all of that out carefully.

For Batanin-type definitions, it is going to depend on what operad you
pick; for instance strict omega-categories are definitely "evil."  But
I would guess that if you use a "CW operad" which is built up freely,
as an operad, by attaching operations of successively higher dimension
whose boundaries are composite operations of lower dimension (which is
how I usually think of an operad for weak higher categories), then its
algebras should also be definable in a "non-evil" way.

Mike


[For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]


             reply	other threads:[~2010-09-14  6:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-14  6:28 Michael Shulman [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-09-15  1:12 Vaughan Pratt
2010-09-11  2:05 David Leduc
2010-09-11 23:23 ` Toby Bartels
2010-09-12  1:28 ` David Roberts
2010-09-12  6:03 ` Jocelyn Paine
     [not found] ` <20100911232358.GA32145@ugcs.caltech.edu>
2010-09-12  6:27   ` David Leduc
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTimbfG0tkjSNZgjL2yADBHnKAXQiHYsAkioEnxJY@mail.gmail.com>
2010-09-12  7:31     ` Toby Bartels
     [not found] ` <20100912073136.GA9115@ugcs.caltech.edu>
2010-09-12 10:22   ` David Leduc
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTi=ZLdVcbvaHPaCfaZhzyDYCdwLNUQTj-5fNZ4p4@mail.gmail.com>
2010-09-12 17:13     ` Toby Bartels
2010-09-12 12:38 ` JeanBenabou
2010-09-13  0:16   ` David Roberts
2010-09-13 22:28     ` Toby Bartels
2010-09-14 22:32     ` Richard Garner
2010-09-14 15:09   ` Miles Gould
2010-09-12 16:52 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=E1OveOZ-00025z-9z@mlist.mta.ca \
    --to=shulman@math.uchicago.edu \
    --cc=categories@mta.ca \
    --cc=david.leduc6@googlemail.com \
    --cc=droberts@maths.adelaide.edu.au \
    --cc=toby@ugcs.caltech.edu \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).