From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/6188 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Fred E.J. Linton" Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: Illusion and Forthrightness in Wikipedia Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 02:58:55 -0400 Message-ID: Reply-To: "Fred E.J. Linton" NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284906185 27411 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2010 14:23:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: categories To: John Baez Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Sun Sep 19 16:23:04 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtpy.mta.ca ([138.73.1.139]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxKnH-0002yc-AR for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:23:03 +0200 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:48122) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OxKls-0007G9-4j; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:21:36 -0300 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OxKlp-0004sz-TM for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:21:34 -0300 Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:6188 Archived-At: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:02:26 PM EDT John Baez wrote: > ... The way to fix it is: go to Wikipedia, click "Edit" and fix it. > = > I was going to do this and say "look, it took just one minute!" - but i= t > seems Peter Selinger beat me to it. (Just click on "View History" and > you'll see someone named Selinger made this change on 1:52 UTC, Septemb= er > 14th, 2010.) Yep; certainly now my original objection no longer applies. Instead, I'm annoyed by the mealy-mouthed lack of content in the new "disclaimer" (?), | The illustrations on this page are derived from various different = | parametrizations. Shouldn't a Wikipedia article be *providing* = (rather than suppressing) information? Is it really informative to hide the fact that the color illustration (at top) for the (3,7)-torus knot *is* using the parametrization that the text displays, while the b/w (2,3)-torus knot (displayed next) is using rather a *different* style of parametrization, whose details are =2E.. well, you see what I'm after? And if I change it, who next will change it away again? Cheers, -- Fred [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]