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From: "Joyal, André" <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
To: "David Yetter" <dyetter@math.ksu.edu>
Cc: "John Baez" <baez@math.ucr.edu>, "categories" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: are fibrations evil?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:21:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Oxilu-0005NF-Eh@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F8DA87C6-CBED-44AE-B964-B766A95D8417@math.ksu.edu>

Dear David,

I appreciate your view.
I would love to have the dictatorial power to reform 
the mathematical vocabulary.
I dream of kicking out long words like diffeomorphism and homeomorphism.
I guess that if they have persisted in mathematics, it is because
everybody understand them.

It is very difficult to impose a new terminology.
There is a social aspect to the problem.
Even if small group of peoples agree in using
a new terminology, this may have little influence on the larger community.
The new word may become a tag for identifying the members of a group.
It may enclose its user into a sub-culture.

Best,
andré



-------- Message d'origine--------
De: David Yetter [mailto:dyetter@math.ksu.edu]
Date: dim. 19/09/2010 10:57
À: Joyal, André
Cc: John Baez; categories
Objet : Re: categories: Re: are fibrations evil?
 
Dear Andre:

Brevity is the usual reason for introducing new terminology.

And, ultimately there is a need, as mathematics would grind
to a halt if one had to write out a phrase giving the content
of each concept whenever one wanted to talk about it.

One may object to the jocular use of a word with a moral
denotation as the name for a mathematical concept, but four 
characters beats 28 characters (or 31 if one counts spaces).

It certainly seems desirable to have a brief name for either
"invariant under equivalence" or "not invariant under 
equivalence".

Best Thoughts,
David Y.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-19 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-17  4:36 John Baez
2010-09-18 13:50 ` Joyal, André
2010-09-19 14:57   ` David Yetter
     [not found]   ` <F8DA87C6-CBED-44AE-B964-B766A95D8417@math.ksu.edu>
2010-09-19 18:21     ` Joyal, André [this message]
2010-09-20 17:04       ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-09-20 16:59   ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-09-22  2:52     ` Toby Bartels
     [not found]     ` <20100922025245.GA14958@ugcs.caltech.edu>
2010-09-22 18:56       ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
     [not found]       ` <4C9A5156.3010307@dm.uba.ar>
2010-09-22 21:06         ` Toby Bartels
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-09-24 23:43 Fred E.J. Linton
2010-09-17  2:17 David Roberts
2010-09-15 11:43 Thomas Streicher
2010-09-16  0:28 ` Michael Shulman
2010-09-16  1:14 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
     [not found] ` <AANLkTinosTZ2NQW9biPxiwpX9zPi5m=kwvA16nHjK=Xu@mail.gmail.com>
2010-09-16  9:47   ` Thomas Streicher
2010-09-16 10:00 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
     [not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1009161023190.12162@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
2010-09-16 10:46   ` Thomas Streicher
2010-09-17  7:44     ` Toby Bartels
     [not found] ` <20100916094755.GA19976@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
2010-09-17  5:01   ` Michael Shulman
2010-09-18 13:48     ` Thomas Streicher

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