From: "Eduardo J. Dubuc" <edubuc@dm.uba.ar>
To: André <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
Cc: John Baez <baez@math.ucr.edu>, categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: are fibrations evil?
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:59:01 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OyDxq-00049A-VG@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1OxKoA-0004wT-Jd@mlist.mta.ca>
I completely agree with Andre.
I add:
Furthermore, the introduction of new terminology (specially if this
terminology refers directly to a meaning in everyday life) with no real
need and/or to change established terminology, is an habit that harm the
credibility of any school of research.
In the present case we are discussing a particular single word "x" to
replace the compound "not invariant under equivalence". This seems
justified by its frequent use, but its frequent use is due precisely
because we are discussing its use !!!.
In the practice of category theory or mathematics, its use is not
frequent enough to justify the introduction of new (simpler)
terminology. What happens with readers which see "x" and do not belong
to our group ?.
Well, most will be upset , and specially if "x is evil" (ja !).
Joyal wrote:
> Dear John,
>
> A property is "evil" in your sense if it is
> not invariant under equivalences.
> Invariance under equivalence is a well
> established mathematical notion.
> I prefer to say that something is not
> invariant under equivalence than to say
> that it is "evil". There is no need to
> introduce a new terminology.
>
> Best,
> André
>
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-17 4:36 John Baez
2010-09-18 13:50 ` Joyal, André
2010-09-19 14:57 ` David Yetter
[not found] ` <F8DA87C6-CBED-44AE-B964-B766A95D8417@math.ksu.edu>
2010-09-19 18:21 ` Joyal, André
2010-09-20 17:04 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-09-20 16:59 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc [this message]
2010-09-22 2:52 ` Toby Bartels
[not found] ` <20100922025245.GA14958@ugcs.caltech.edu>
2010-09-22 18:56 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
[not found] ` <4C9A5156.3010307@dm.uba.ar>
2010-09-22 21:06 ` Toby Bartels
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2010-09-24 23:43 Fred E.J. Linton
2010-09-17 2:17 David Roberts
2010-09-15 11:43 Thomas Streicher
2010-09-16 0:28 ` Michael Shulman
2010-09-16 1:14 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
[not found] ` <AANLkTinosTZ2NQW9biPxiwpX9zPi5m=kwvA16nHjK=Xu@mail.gmail.com>
2010-09-16 9:47 ` Thomas Streicher
2010-09-16 10:00 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1009161023190.12162@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
2010-09-16 10:46 ` Thomas Streicher
2010-09-17 7:44 ` Toby Bartels
[not found] ` <20100916094755.GA19976@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
2010-09-17 5:01 ` Michael Shulman
2010-09-18 13:48 ` Thomas Streicher
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