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From: "Mattias Wikström" <mattias.wikstrom@gmail.com>
To: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Is equality evil?‏
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:30:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OzIXh-00029s-LW@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)

Toby Bartels wrote:
> Right. I would prefer to use no identity types at all.
> If there is a particular predicate (on some particular type)
> that you would like to think of as equality (on that type),
> then write down its definition and introduce a symbol for it.

If any (well-behaved) equivalence relation can be thought of as
equality then it would seem to follow that equality is relative. That
is:
1) A and B may be the same thing from one point of view and two
different things from another point of view,
2) the cardinality of {A, B} may be either 1 or 2 depending on what
point of view one takes, and
3) it may be that from one point of view there is no property that
distinguishes A from B while from another point of view there is a
property P that distinguishes A from B (for consistency I guess one
has to say that relative to the first viewpoint, not only does P not
exist, but the second viewpoint also fails to exist).

In the philosophical literature the idea that equality/identity is
relative is credited to philosopher Peter Geach (I can give a list of
references if anyone is interested). It has few adherents, but maybe
category theory can make it popular.

Best regards,
Mattias


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             reply	other threads:[~2010-09-24 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-24 15:30 Mattias Wikström [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-09-25  0:16 Is equality evil? Fred E.J. Linton
2010-09-15 11:43 are fibrations evil? Thomas Streicher
2010-09-16  5:14 ` Is equality evil? Vaughan Pratt
2010-09-17  8:28   ` Toby Bartels
2010-09-18 14:11     ` Thomas Streicher
2010-09-19 20:30       ` Erik Palmgren
2010-09-24 12:50       ` Bas Spitters
     [not found]     ` <20100918141110.GC9467@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
2010-09-22  4:00       ` Toby Bartels
2010-09-25 16:18         ` Michael Shulman
     [not found]       ` <20100922040041.GB14958@ugcs.caltech.edu>
2010-09-22 10:27         ` Thomas Streicher

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