categories - Category Theory list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Thomas Streicher <streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: RE : categories: Re: Not invariant but good
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:18:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1P0kZg-0003x8-UU@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1P0OdV-00058a-F6@mlist.mta.ca>

Thanks Andr'e for pointing out by various examples why it is not always wise
to insist on invariance under equivalence or weak equivalence. This in my
opinion is the real issue and not whether "evil" is a tasteless name or not.

The problem rather is that people using "evil" really mean it so even if they
deny it.

An little comment on structure versus property which is an importnat
distinction in my eyes. The notion of Grothendieck fibration is a property
of functors and not an additional structure. However, the notion of fibration
in a(n abstract) 2-category can be formulated only postulating a certain kind
of structure which, however, is unique up to canonical isomorphism. But this
amounts to defining Grothendieck fibrations in terms of cleavages (which
certainly are all canonically isomorphic). But choosing cleavages amounts
to accepting very strong choice principles which is maybe no real problem
but at least aesthetically moderately pleasing.

Thomas


[For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-28 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-24 15:44 subculture Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-09-25  0:38 ` subculture Ruadhai
2010-09-25 23:10   ` RE : categories: subculture Joyal, André
2010-09-26  2:43   ` subculture David Leduc
2010-09-26  3:19   ` subculture Fred Linton
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTikJoHkO2M_3hnrQqqFq2_N2T9i6KF2DRFbHTujP@mail.gmail.com>
2010-09-26  3:43     ` subculture Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-09-25  4:01 ` Not invariant but good Joyal, André
     [not found] ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F59BE@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-09-26  3:29   ` John Baez
2010-09-27  2:54     ` Peter Selinger
2010-09-27 15:55     ` RE : categories: " Joyal, André
2010-09-28  2:10       ` RE : " John Baez
2010-09-29 18:05         ` no joke Joyal, André
2010-09-30  2:53           ` John Baez
2010-09-28 10:18       ` Thomas Streicher [this message]
2010-09-29 21:25         ` Not invariant but good Michael Shulman
2010-09-30  3:07           ` Richard Garner
2010-09-30 11:11           ` Thomas Streicher
2010-09-30 19:39             ` Michael Shulman
2010-09-30 11:34           ` Thomas Streicher
     [not found] ` <20101001092434.GA9359@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
2010-10-03 22:10   ` Michael Shulman

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=E1P0kZg-0003x8-UU@mlist.mta.ca \
    --to=streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de \
    --cc=categories@mta.ca \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).