From: Richard Garner <richard.garner@mq.edu.au>
To: Michael Shulman <shulman@math.uchicago.edu>
Cc: Thomas Streicher <streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>,
categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Not invariant but good
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:07:29 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1P1Uu6-0001ea-BQ@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1P160j-0001l3-I7@mlist.mta.ca>
> It is true that if one has a Grothendieck fibration between categories
> in the ordinary sense, then it only becomes an internal fibration in
> the naively defined 2-category Cat if we have the axiom of choice,
> since the latter amounts to saying that we can simultaneously choose
> cartesian liftings for any families of objects of E and morphisms of B
> we might want to pull them back along. (I don't think any "global
> choice" is necessary, since the definition doesn't require us to make
> such a choice simultaneously for every possible family--only that for
> any particular family, we -could- make such a choice.)
Though we can always make such a simultaneous choice as soon as we
have it in one particular case. Given the Grothendieck fibration p:
E->B in Cat, and letting X denote the comma object (B,p), it is enough
to choose a lifting for the X-indexed family of morphisms of B
corresponding to the projection X --> B^2 at the X-indexed family of
objects of E corresponding to the projection X --> E; for then to give
a Y-indexed family of morphisms in B and a Y-indexed family of objects
of E over their codomains is to give a morphism Y -> X, and so the
chosen lifting for the latter induces a chosen lifting for the former.
Richard
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-24 15:44 subculture Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-09-25 0:38 ` subculture Ruadhai
2010-09-25 23:10 ` RE : categories: subculture Joyal, André
2010-09-26 2:43 ` subculture David Leduc
2010-09-26 3:19 ` subculture Fred Linton
[not found] ` <AANLkTikJoHkO2M_3hnrQqqFq2_N2T9i6KF2DRFbHTujP@mail.gmail.com>
2010-09-26 3:43 ` subculture Eduardo J. Dubuc
2010-09-25 4:01 ` Not invariant but good Joyal, André
[not found] ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E370F59BE@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2010-09-26 3:29 ` John Baez
2010-09-27 2:54 ` Peter Selinger
2010-09-27 15:55 ` RE : categories: " Joyal, André
2010-09-28 2:10 ` RE : " John Baez
2010-09-29 18:05 ` no joke Joyal, André
2010-09-30 2:53 ` John Baez
2010-09-28 10:18 ` RE : categories: Re: Not invariant but good Thomas Streicher
2010-09-29 21:25 ` Michael Shulman
2010-09-30 3:07 ` Richard Garner [this message]
2010-09-30 11:11 ` Thomas Streicher
2010-09-30 19:39 ` Michael Shulman
2010-09-30 11:34 ` Thomas Streicher
[not found] ` <20101001092434.GA9359@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
2010-10-03 22:10 ` Michael Shulman
2010-09-27 5:36 John Baez
2010-09-28 23:11 ` Michael Shulman
2010-10-01 12:36 Thomas Streicher
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