From: edubuc <edubuc@dm.uba.ar>
To: Tom Leinster <Tom.Leinster@glasgow.ac.uk>
Cc: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: "schizophrenic" reference
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 12:24:20 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1PEBzD-0002MX-QQ@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1PDfjP-0005P8-NO@mlist.mta.ca>
Concerning terminology one more opinion exemplified by this example:
I think that it is a VERY BAD HABIT to attach a mathematical meaning to
words that have a comun use in every-day language, which come together
with all sorts of connotations. Like "schizofrenic".
Somebody proposed "schimatic", and I find this a good choice:
1) it is erudite and etimologically justified
2) it sounds right
3) (and more important). It is not a word known in everyday language.
For example, I did not know it (neither in spanish, english or french).
So, when I would see "schimatic" in a math text, I would say "what the
hell does it mean ?", and look at the mathematical definition. Then I
will know, and "schimatic" will have attached from now on only its
mathematical meaning.
I suggest that when in need of a word for a mathematical concept, to
look at the LATIN language, which is a DEAD language, so no problems.
And furthermore, it has a long tradition for scientific names.
(and plurals "topoi" for example ja! sorry Peter)
e.d.
Tom Leinster wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Dusko Pavlovic wrote:
>
>> tom's was just the one where i blew up. i am sorry, tom.
>
> No problem.
>
> I understand that posts about terminology get tedious, but I do actually
> think this matters. Mental health organizations constantly have to fight
> misconceptions about mental illness. Those misconceptions can do real
> harm to those who are ill. Schizophrenia as "split personality" is
> one of
> them. For example, Mind, a well-known British mental health charity,
> says:
>
> There is more media misinformation about schizophrenia than about any
> other psychiatric diagnosis. It's not true that schizophrenia means
> 'split personality'
>
> Many websites on mental health contain statements along similar lines; a
> few links are below.
>
> We have the freedom to choose any term we like for the mathematical
> concept. We can do a small good thing by not choosing a term that
> perpetuates a damaging myth about a serious psychiatric disorder.
>
> Best wishes,
> Tom
>
> Links:
> http://www.mind.org.uk/help/diagnoses_and_conditions/schizophrenia#danger
> http://helpguide.org/mental/schizophrenia_symptom.htm
> http://healthmad.com/mental-health/seven-myths-and-misconceptions-about-schizophrenia/
>
> http://www.ehow.co.uk/list_6112881_common-misconceptions-schizophrenia.html
>
> http://overcomingschizophrenia.blogspot.com/2008/09/common-misconceptions-about.html
>
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[not found] <20101101135231.CF3035C25C@chase.mathstat.dal.ca>
2010-11-01 20:37 ` Dusko Pavlovic
2010-11-03 2:56 ` Tom Leinster
2010-11-03 16:24 ` edubuc [this message]
2010-10-28 18:08 Fred E.J. Linton
2010-10-29 2:34 ` Tom Leinster
[not found] ` <C4329BBD-876C-43D0-AB53-DB2E92603E7F@kestrel.edu>
2010-10-31 8:21 ` Dusko Pavlovic
2010-10-31 10:40 ` Vaughan Pratt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-27 10:21 Fred E.J. Linton
2010-10-28 9:13 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
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