From: Ross Street <ross.street@mq.edu.au>
To: JeanBenabou <jean.benabou@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: Categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Fibrations in a 2-category
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:42:03 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Pcnyp-00044F-8f@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1PcdVr-0004A6-7N@mlist.mta.ca>
Dear Jean
On 11/01/2011, at 6:31 PM, JeanBenabou wrote:
> 2- The situation is much worse in more general cases. Suppose E is a
> topos (this assumption is much too strong), and take C = Cat(E), the
> category of internal categories in E. On can define internal
> fibrations, and "fibrations" in the previous "abstract" sense. They
> do not coincide.
> It all boils down to the following remark: E and (E°, Set) are
> Toposes, the Yoneda functor E --> (E*,Set) preserves an reflects
> limits, but "nothing else" of the internal logic, which is needed to
> define internal fibrations.
I totally agree. An internal fibration between groups in a topos E is
a group morphism whose underlying morphism in E is an epimorphism; for
a representable fibration, it is a split epimorphism in E. Jack Duskin
alerted me to this many years ago.
Never-the-less, the representable notion has had some uses. Actually,
Dominic Verity and I also used representably Giraud-Conduché morphisms
in
The comprehensive factorization and torsors, Theory and Applications
of Categories 23(3) (2010) 42-75;
whereas there is an internal version (more generally applicable in the
way you explain) of these too (in a topos, for example).
Have you written or published anything on these internal notions?
Best wishes,
Ross
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-11 7:31 JeanBenabou
2011-01-11 23:42 ` Ross Street [this message]
2011-01-12 6:50 ` JeanBenabou
2011-01-13 1:37 ` David Roberts
2011-01-13 23:02 ` Michael Shulman
2011-01-14 22:44 ` Michal Przybylek
2011-01-16 22:51 ` David Roberts
2011-01-17 9:02 ` David Roberts
2011-01-18 23:45 ` Michael Shulman
2011-01-14 2:47 JeanBenabou
2011-01-22 10:25 Fibrations in a 2-Category JeanBenabou
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2011-01-23 20:17 ` Michael Shulman
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2011-01-29 17:45 ` Marta Bunge
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2011-03-14 21:57 ` Marta Bunge
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2011-01-29 19:20 ` Marta Bunge
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