From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/6519 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marek Zawadowski Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: colimits of polynomial functors Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:04:46 +0100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Marek Zawadowski NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296849229 5730 80.91.229.12 (4 Feb 2011 19:53:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: categories@mta.ca To: Ondrej Rypacek Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Fri Feb 04 20:53:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtpx.mta.ca ([138.73.1.114]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PlRiy-0000vV-8h for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:53:44 +0100 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:41755) by smtpx.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PlRig-0004Rp-5z; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:53:26 -0400 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PlRib-0001G6-Mw for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:53:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:6519 Archived-At: W dniu 2011-01-31 16:13, Ondrej Rypacek pisze: > Dear all > > Does the category of (dependent) polynomial functors and strong > natural transformation have all/some colimits ? > In general, what is known about them ? > > Many thanks! > Ondrej > In order to make life simpler, I will assume in this note that polynomial functors are finitary wide pullback preserving functors on slices of Set. There are different ways one might organize polynomial functors. I like to think that they form a fibration over Set (see Section 6 of LMF http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~zawado/Papers/MonFib.pdf for details). Then the fiber over 1 is the category of finitary wide pullback preserving endofunctors on Set with cartesian natural transformations as morphisms. If there are any limits or colimits of polynomial functors any sense this this category should have them, as well. But this category is a Kleisli category and one should not expect much from it in terms of having limits or colimits. It goes as follows. The category of (algebraic) signatures (i.e. just operations, no relations) is equivalent to Set/N. There is a symmetrizations monad S on it. It takes a signature A-->N and returns a signature S(A)-->N. For each operation a\in A over n\in N, S(A) has operation (a,\sigma) for each permutations \sigma of {1,..,n}. The Kleisli algebras for this monad form the category of signatures with non-standard amalgamations considered by Hermida-Makkai-Power. This category is equivalent to the category of polynomial functors described above (see LMF). The Eilenberg-Moore category for this monad is the category of symmetic (non-colored) signatures considered by Baez-Dolan. It is equivalent to the category of analytic functors (by which I mean here the category of finitary endofunctors on Set weakly preserving wide pullbacks with wealky cartesian natural transformations as morphisms c.f. A. Joyal, Foncteurs analytiques et especes de structures, Lecture Notes Math. 1234, Springer 1986, 126-159., see also section 7 of LMF for the colored version). Thus if one take (co)limits of polynomial functors one takes (co)limits of free S-algebras and expect to have as a result an S-algebra i.e. an analytic functor. Not surpisingly, most of the time this functor is not polynomial. A particular example of a coequalizer that is analytic but not polynomial was given by Torsten and commented by Joachim. NB. I have been talking about the symmetrization monad in Genova and last two PSSL's reporting joint work with my student S. Szawiel. Note that here and in many different places it is important that this monad S is acting directly on signature not on non-symetric operad. Some people missed this point in Genova, but it is very important in the above and in many other places. Best regards, Marek [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]