From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/6600 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marta Bunge Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: RE: on_ignorance Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:14:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20110403130514.B79984686@mailscan1.ncs.mcgill.ca> Reply-To: Marta Bunge NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301962689 3426 80.91.229.12 (5 Apr 2011 00:18:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 00:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eduardo Dubuc To: Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Tue Apr 05 02:18:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtpx.mta.ca ([138.73.1.4]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6ty8-0001LV-Nz for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2011 02:18:05 +0200 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:35954) by smtpx.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6ty1-00031n-8i; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 21:17:57 -0300 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6txw-00083z-GA for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 21:17:52 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20110403130514.B79984686@mailscan1.ncs.mcgill.ca> Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:6600 Archived-At: [Note from moderator: Marta is correct that I was careless is posting Eduardo's message. It is not about category theory and is not part of any thread I am aware of. Any further discussion will not be on the list. Thanks.] Dear Eduardo=2C Is this part of a thread?=A0Are we supposed to search the categories listin= gs to look for what you are exactly referring to?=A0Do you realize that in = so doing we would be taken away from our work or from anything else we woul= d rather be doing?=A0 MY guess is that your posting would have been rejected by the moderator had= the author been someone else=2C and this for any of the following reasons.= It contains no mathematics=2C there is no explicit mention of the context= =2C and an anonymous text is quoted. Moreover=2C if this belongs to a threa= d=2C it is then not a very recent one and surely as a thread it must have e= xpired.=A0 If moralizing is to be accepted in categories fro now on=2C I would offer m= y own advice. Do not write anything likely to create (further) divisions in= categories. To mathematics=2C respond only with mathematics. Personal rema= rks - even if laudatory=2C ought to be forbidden.=A0 Although a response to a published posting=2C the moderator should reject t= his message. I would understand it perfectly! Best wishes=2C Marta > Date: Fri=2C 1 Apr 2011 14:55:51 -0300 > From: edubuc@dm.uba.ar > To: categories@mta.ca > Subject: categories: on_ignorance >=20 > Concerning certain sarcastic answers given in this list to some trivial > questions (trivial for the expert=2C but not trivial for the ignorant)=2C= I just > read the following (I ignore the author): >=20 > "Productive stupidity means being ignorant by choice. Focusing on importa= nt > questions puts us in the awkward position of being ignorant. One of the > beautiful things about science is that it allows us to bumble along=2C ge= tting > it wrong time after time=2C and feel perfectly fine as long as we learn > something each time. No doubt=2C this can be difficult for students who a= re > accustomed to getting the answers right. No doubt=2C reasonable levels of > confidence and emotional resilience help=2C but I think scientific educat= ion > might do more to ease what is a very big transition: from learning what > other people once discovered to making your own discoveries. The more > comfortable we become with being stupid=2C the deeper we will wade into t= he > unknown and the more likely we are to make big discoveries." >=20 [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]