From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/6743 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Fred E.J. Linton" Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: Comments on a wikipedia article on a Timeline of Category theory Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:07:28 -0400 Message-ID: Reply-To: "Fred E.J. Linton" NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310126427 25406 80.91.229.12 (8 Jul 2011 12:00:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:00:27 +0000 (UTC) To: Ronnie Brown , "categories@mta.ca" , George Janelidze Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Fri Jul 08 14:00:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtpx.mta.ca ([138.73.1.30]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qf9jI-0006ON-T0 for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:00:21 +0200 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:37111) by smtpx.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qf9hl-0003zZ-MD; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:58:45 -0300 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qf9hl-0003ky-3w for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:58:45 -0300 Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:6743 Archived-At: George, Ronnie, et al., I think you are engaged in a valiant, but losing, battle. = Tellingly, just today, in my postal mail, I found a copy of = the latest issue of The New Yorker, with its mini-biography = of Jaron Lanier, and his reported lamentation of Wikipedia = as "a triumph of 'intellectual mob rule'". (See "Issue of July 11 & 18, 2011", pp. 46-53, esp. p. 46.) I hold out no hope of seeing much improvement in the parts of Wikipedia that need improving, and I (for one) have now given up trying. = Far be it from me to try to dissuade you, though. So: Cheers, and best of luck in any event, -- Fred ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:51:00 PM EDT From: Ronnie Brown To: "categories@mta.ca" , George Janelidze Subject: categories: Comments on a wikipedia article on a Timeline of Cat= egory theory > We would like to draw the attention of readers of this list to the arti= cle > = > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_category_theory_and_related_math= ematics > = > = > We feel that this entry is slanted, unbalanced, and in many cases wrong= =2E > It gives credit to work at a given time often presented in the form of > vague ambitious titles or conclusions that give no information on the > actual theorems the authors either claimed or published at the time. I= t > fails to give credit to many authors for their contribution to the > development of category theory and its wider applications, and fails to= > describe many developments in the area. > = > It also fails to give references, which is usually a requirement for > wikipedia articles, and the `discussion' makes it clear that the > author(s) of this entry have no intention of so doing, and have not don= e > so since the entry was made in 2009. > = > The anonymity of the entry is also a handicap. > = > One of us has tried to make a correction, but this is using a sticking > plaster on too great a problem. The entry fails to come up to the > standards of wikipedia in scholarship, accuracy and presentation, is no= t > really possible to correct, and should therefore be removed. > = > We would be grateful for comments on this matter, and for agreement to > support this proposal to wikipedia. > = > Ronnie Brown > = > George Janelidze > = [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]