From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/6746 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sergei SOLOVIEV Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: Comments on a wikipedia article on a Timeline of Category theory Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 13:53:56 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Sergei SOLOVIEV NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310126716 26981 80.91.229.12 (8 Jul 2011 12:05:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "categories@mta.ca" , George Janelidze To: Ronnie Brown Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Fri Jul 08 14:05:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtpx.mta.ca ([138.73.1.30]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qf9nx-0000c1-6d for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:05:09 +0200 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:56281) by smtpx.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qf9mJ-0004WQ-VK; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:03:28 -0300 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qf9mJ-0003rJ-4x for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:03:27 -0300 In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:6746 Archived-At: I agree that it very much unbalanced - for example, practically all works on applications of proof theory to categories are absent. I think that in fact the number of contributors worth mentioning is maybe 5 times greater, and the idea to make a table like in this artikle will generate controverse in any case. Best Sergei Soloviev Ronnie Brown wrote: > We would like to draw the attention of readers of this list to the > article > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_category_theory_and_related_mathematics > > > > We feel that this entry is slanted, unbalanced, and in many cases wrong. > It gives credit to work at a given time often presented in the form of > vague ambitious titles or conclusions that give no information on the > actual theorems the authors either claimed or published at the time. It > fails to give credit to many authors for their contribution to the > development of category theory and its wider applications, and fails to > describe many developments in the area. > > It also fails to give references, which is usually a requirement for > wikipedia articles, and the `discussion' makes it clear that the > author(s) of this entry have no intention of so doing, and have not done > so since the entry was made in 2009. > > The anonymity of the entry is also a handicap. > > One of us has tried to make a correction, but this is using a sticking > plaster on too great a problem. The entry fails to come up to the > standards of wikipedia in scholarship, accuracy and presentation, is not > really possible to correct, and should therefore be removed. > > We would be grateful for comments on this matter, and for agreement to > support this proposal to wikipedia. > > Ronnie Brown > > George Janelidze > [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]