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From: Michael Shulman <mshulman@ucsd.edu>
To: marta.bunge@mcgill.ca
Cc: categories@mta.ca
Subject: RE: stacks (was: size_question_encore)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:51:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1QherJ-0006Xa-Or@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SNT101-W37B84477F7D0AC1746F41CDF470@phx.gbl>

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Marta Bunge <martabunge@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Bob Pare and I wanted to posit something like the existence of a "representative (or universal) cover" as an axiom (RC), such that GT => RC => ASC, and also (ET + AC) => RC. We hoped to show that RC had good properties, and more importantly, that Eff satisfied it but this did not work.

That's a very interesting question!  There seem to be a lot of axioms
of this flavor, which say in various different ways that AC fails "in
only a small way".  Some that I am aware of include:

* Small Violations of Choice (Blass):
   http://nlab.mathforge.org/nlab/show/small+violations+of+choice
* Small Cardinality Selection (Makkai):
   http://nlab.mathforge.org/nlab/show/small+cardinality+selection+axiom
* Axiom of Multiple Choice (Moerdijk & Palmgren):
   http://nlab.mathforge.org/nlab/show/axiom+of+multiple+choice
* Weakly Initial Sets of Covers (Roberts):
   http://nlab.mathforge.org/nlab/show/WISC
* The ex/lex completion of Set (or the topos in question) is well-powered
* The ex/lex completion of Set is a topos, i.e. Set has a generic proof

Some of these hold in any Grothendieck topos, but others apparently
need not, and I have no idea which of them might hold in Eff.  It
would be interesting to know if any of them imply ASC (or André's
proposed strengthening thereof).

Mike


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-15  6:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAOvivQyUb8LfzWP-+ecki2WV2Fq8_qm-vCA0GNiu_nkC31nF-w@mail.gmail.com>
2011-07-12 12:30 ` Marta Bunge
2011-07-12 14:33   ` Michael Shulman
     [not found] ` <SNT101-W529E9B5A38EF9C90E0B787DF440@phx.gbl>
2011-07-12 18:45   ` Michael Shulman
     [not found] ` <SNT101-W50F2D8CAE24ED9DBB14F95DF440@phx.gbl>
2011-07-13  2:24   ` Michael Shulman
     [not found]   ` <16988_1310523866_4E1D01DA_16988_150_1_CAOvivQw6wf9CV0bwd0SbOJ=_5umAcXhTGwVJbMp0tV3oHXk+SQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-07-13  9:16     ` Marta Bunge
     [not found] ` <SNT101-W37B84477F7D0AC1746F41CDF470@phx.gbl>
2011-07-15  6:51   ` Michael Shulman [this message]
2011-07-15 10:27 Marta Bunge
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-07-12 19:56 Marta Bunge
2011-07-12 15:04 André Joyal
2011-07-12 19:12 ` Eduardo Dubuc
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1107141113440.7062@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>
2011-07-15 19:01     ` Eduardo Dubuc
2011-07-12 14:56 Marta Bunge
2011-07-10 13:30 size_question_encore André Joyal
2011-07-11  5:36 ` stacks (was: size_question_encore) David Roberts
     [not found] ` <1310362598.4e1a8be6a7800@webmail.adelaide.edu.au>
2011-07-11 12:32   ` Marta Bunge
2011-07-12  1:20     ` Michael Shulman

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