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From: Bas Spitters <spitters@cs.ru.nl>
To: Jocelyn Ireson-Paine <popx@j-paine.org>
Cc: Vaughan Pratt <pratt@cs.stanford.edu>, Categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: science_publishers
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:03:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1R0iQn-0004lT-PY@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)

Google is joining the citation game. I am not sure whether this is good or bad.

http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/citations.html
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=B7vSqZsAAAAJ&hl=en

Bas

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jocelyn Ireson-Paine <popx@j-paine.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Vaughan Pratt wrote:
>
>> The solution of authors voting with their feet is a very long-term one
>> which does not address what's already in the literature but currently
>> behind a paywall.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> This issue has a particularly large impact on the current hot-button
>> topic of global warming, where there are a lot of technically minded
>> people without access to the relevant technical journals being cited on
>> blogs by people on either side of the debate who do have access.
>> Many of you will have noticed that a widespread feeling, particularly
>> strong in the US and Australia, has been developing lately that there's
>> a conspiracy between governments and scientists to tamper with the free
>> market economy by inappropriately steering funding towards alternative
>> energy proponents and providers.  Locking influential articles behind a
>> paywall has the unfortunate side effect of amplifying this feeling.
>>
>> For that and other hot-button topics (vaccination and autism, aluminium
>> and Alzheimer's, safety of nanotechnology, etc.), a more immediate and
>> reliable solution would be welcome, in addition to the solution of
>> voting with your feet.
>>
> Here's my suggestion, inspired by the music-sharing software Napster. Set
> up a Web site to which one can upload images of journal pages. Equip it
> with optical character-recognition software that in these images, can
> identify titles, authors' names, and other bibliographic information, and
> that can recognise whether an article is complete or not. Add a program
> that can assemble complete articles from partial page sets uploaded by
> different people. Call it the "Journal Colimit Construction" site.
> Advertise it to fervent believers in open access who are prepared to do
> something practical to support their belief: the something practical being
> to scan and upload an agreed-on number of pages per week from whatever
> journals they can find in their libraries. It might be a good idea to host
> the site in a country that doesn't recognise world copyright conventions.
>
>> The problem is not merely academic, it's also a serious social problem.
>>

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             reply	other threads:[~2011-09-05 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-05 19:03 Bas Spitters [this message]
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2011-09-04 15:55 science_publishers Marta Bunge
2011-09-03 10:46 science_publishers Marta Bunge
2011-09-04 10:33 ` science_publishers Steve Vickers
2011-09-05  2:03 ` science_publishers Eduardo J. Dubuc
     [not found] <313_1314877482_4E5F702A_313_50_1_E1Qz5VK-0008UE-FM@mlist.mta.ca>
2011-09-01 13:39 ` science_publishers Marta Bunge
2011-08-31 18:48 science_publishers Eduardo J. Dubuc
2011-09-01 12:34 ` science_publishers Michael Barr
2011-09-01 18:55   ` science_publishers Steve Vickers
2011-09-02 20:26     ` science_publishers Ronnie Brown
2011-09-04  9:05       ` science_publishers George Janelidze
2011-09-01 14:11 ` science_publishers Mike Stay
2011-09-01 18:24   ` science_publishers Vaughan Pratt
2011-09-02 19:46     ` science_publishers Jocelyn Ireson-Paine
     [not found] ` <CAKQgqTbx-bm+pMHnG=iYDzGZVnZFoeTk+vGnC0ih=GUykUEVjw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-09-01 18:26   ` science_publishers Eduardo J. Dubuc

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