From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/6866 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bas Spitters Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Re: science_publishers Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:03:12 +0200 Message-ID: Reply-To: Bas Spitters NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1315264829 15462 80.91.229.12 (5 Sep 2011 23:20:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 23:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Vaughan Pratt , Categories To: Jocelyn Ireson-Paine Original-X-From: majordomo@mlist.mta.ca Tue Sep 06 01:20:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from smtpy.mta.ca ([138.73.1.128]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0iSl-0000Wc-AU for gsmc-categories@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:20:23 +0200 Original-Received: from mlist.mta.ca ([138.73.1.63]:51860) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R0iQo-00034S-Et; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:18:22 -0300 Original-Received: from majordomo by mlist.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R0iQn-0004lT-PY for categories-list@mlist.mta.ca; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:18:21 -0300 Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:6866 Archived-At: Google is joining the citation game. I am not sure whether this is good or = bad. http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/citations.html http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=3DB7vSqZsAAAAJ&hl=3Den Bas On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jocelyn Ireson-Paine wro= te: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Vaughan Pratt wrote: > >> The solution of authors voting with their feet is a very long-term one >> which does not address what's already in the literature but currently >> behind a paywall. >> >> ... >> >> This issue has a particularly large impact on the current hot-button >> topic of global warming, where there are a lot of technically minded >> people without access to the relevant technical journals being cited on >> blogs by people on either side of the debate who do have access. >> Many of you will have noticed that a widespread feeling, particularly >> strong in the US and Australia, has been developing lately that there's >> a conspiracy between governments and scientists to tamper with the free >> market economy by inappropriately steering funding towards alternative >> energy proponents and providers. =A0Locking influential articles behind = a >> paywall has the unfortunate side effect of amplifying this feeling. >> >> For that and other hot-button topics (vaccination and autism, aluminium >> and Alzheimer's, safety of nanotechnology, etc.), a more immediate and >> reliable solution would be welcome, in addition to the solution of >> voting with your feet. >> > Here's my suggestion, inspired by the music-sharing software Napster. Set > up a Web site to which one can upload images of journal pages. Equip it > with optical character-recognition software that in these images, can > identify titles, authors' names, and other bibliographic information, and > that can recognise whether an article is complete or not. Add a program > that can assemble complete articles from partial page sets uploaded by > different people. Call it the "Journal Colimit Construction" site. > Advertise it to fervent believers in open access who are prepared to do > something practical to support their belief: the something practical bein= g > to scan and upload an agreed-on number of pages per week from whatever > journals they can find in their libraries. It might be a good idea to hos= t > the site in a country that doesn't recognise world copyright conventions. > >> The problem is not merely academic, it's also a serious social problem. >> .... [For admin and other information see: http://www.mta.ca/~cat-dist/ ]