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From: Marco Grandis <grandis@dima.unige.it>
To: categories@mta.ca, Urs Schreiber <urs.schreiber@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: Simplicial versus (cubical with connections)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1RGUp2-0001Qq-4n@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1RGI6Z-0003Zo-4j@mlist.mta.ca>

This is about two points of a recent message of Dmitry Roytenberg,
forwarded by Urs Schreiber.


> I have not been able to find an abstract
> description of any of the cubical sites, in the spirit of the simplex
> category being the category of non-empty finite ordinals

I do not know of any such description. But there is a nice abstract
description of the site of
cubical sets with connections, parallel to a well-known
characterisation of the simplicial site:

    - the free strict monoidal category with an assigned dioid.
    See [GM], Thm. 5.2. (There are analogous results for the other
cubical sites.)

A `dioid' is a set with two monoid operations, where the unit of each
operation is
absorbant for the other. Typically, an abstract interval has such a
structure, and a cylinder
functor has the structure of a 'diad'. See [Gr].
(I was also using the terms 'cubical monoid' and 'cubical monad', for
an obvious analogy;
later I abandoned them because they could be misleading - obviously
again).

Every lattice is an idempotent dioid, but idempotency is - apparently
- of no
interest in homotopy. This leads us to the second point: smooth
homotopy.

> In any case, using these connections in a differential-geometric
> context is problematic, not (just) because of a clash with established
> terminology, but because the max and min maps are only piecewise
> smooth.


For smooth homotopy one should use a different (non-idempotent) dioid,
still commutative and involutive:

NOT the standard interval with min, max, linked by the involution  t'
= 1 - t,

BUT the standard interval with multiplication and *, linked
by the same involution:
    x*y = (x'.y')' = x + y - xy.

See [Gr].

[Gr] M. Grandis, Cubical monads and their symmetries, in:
Proc. of the Eleventh Intern. Conf. on Topology, Trieste 1993,
Rend. Ist. Mat. Univ. Trieste 25 (1993), 223-262.
http://www.dmi.units.it/~rimut/volumi/25/index.html

[GM] M. Grandis - L. Mauri, Cubical sets and their site, Theory Appl.
Categ. 11 (2003), No. 8, 185-211.
Best regards

Marco Grandis

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-19  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <33D5C4F9-416F-47E2-9CB3-C0109F977475@gmail.com>
2011-09-14 10:04 ` Ronnie Brown
     [not found] ` <E1R4GgT-0007ej-Hq@mlist.mta.ca>
2011-09-15 19:06   ` Urs Schreiber
2011-09-16 13:24     ` Fernando Muro
2011-10-18 13:27       ` Urs Schreiber
2011-10-19  8:35         ` Marco Grandis [this message]
2011-10-19 17:09           ` Vaughan Pratt
2011-10-20 10:39             ` Ronnie Brown
2011-10-29  1:08 Simplicial versus (cubical) " F William Lawvere
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-10-22 13:07 Simplicial versus (cubical " Todd Trimble
2011-10-26 21:27 ` F. William Lawvere
     [not found] <E1RGrPh-0003WW-KS@mlist.mta.ca>
2011-10-20 22:08 ` Ross Street
2011-09-12  0:30 Simplicial groups are Kan Michael Barr
2011-09-12  9:35 ` Ronnie Brown
2011-09-13 15:12   ` Simplicial versus (cubical with connections) Marco Grandis
     [not found]   ` <BDF51495-03DB-4725-8372-094AD1608A11@dima.unige.it>
2011-09-13 16:58     ` Ronnie Brown
2011-09-14  7:08       ` Jonathan CHICHE 齊正航

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