From: Steve Lack <steve.lack@mq.edu.au>
To: "George Janelidze" <janelg@telkomsa.net>
Cc: "Dmitry Roytenberg" <starrgazerr@gmail.com>,
"Categories list" <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: when does preservation of monos imply left exactness?
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:08:14 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1RJluD-0007G4-15@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1RJOgn-0002Ov-BQ@mlist.mta.ca>
Dear All,
While I agree that category theory is not just generalized abelian
category theory, there are nonetheless some theorems along the
lines that Dmitry suggests. Richard mentioned one; here is another.
Of course neither is nearly as simple as the abelian case.
If the opposite of the categories A and B are exact Mal'cev, then any
functor f:A->B which preserves finite colimits and regular monos preserves equalizers
of coreflexive pairs. Thus any functor f:A->B which preserves finite colimits, finite products
and regular monos preserves all finite limits.
In particular, A and B could be toposes, then if f:A->B preserves finite colimits, finite
products, and monomorphisms, it preserves all finite limits.
From the point of view of George's example, the problem is that in the category 2, the
map 0->1 is mono but not regular mono.
Best wishes,
Steve Lack.
On 27/10/2011, at 9:32 PM, George Janelidze wrote:
> All right, somebody should answer...
>
> Dear Dmitry,
>
> First, may I suggest that looking at category theory as merely a
> 'generalized abelian category theory' is not really a good idea?
>
> Specifically, in the abelian context
>
> 'right exact + preserves monos => left exact'
>
> is simple but extremely important, while for general categories it is indeed
> wrong, and adding conditions to make this work seems to be a strange thing
> to do!
>
> Now, more specifically, concerning Barr exact:
>
> Let 2 be the ordered set {0,1} considered as a category, let S be the
> category of sets, and let F : S --> 2 be the left adjoint of the canonical
> embedding 2 --> S (hence, for a set X, F(X) = 0 if and only if X is empty).
> Then:
>
> (a) 2 and S are Barr exact.
>
> (b) F preserves all colimits since it is a left adjoint.
>
> (c) F preserves products (moreover, the fact that it preserves all products
> is one of the standard forms of the Axiom of Choice).
>
> (d) F preserves monomorphisms since every morphism in 2 is a monomorphism.
>
> (e) F does not preserve all equalizers since two parallel morphisms between
> non-empty sets might have the empty equalizer.
>
> Best regards
>
> George Janelidze
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Dmitry Roytenberg" <starrgazerr@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:59 PM
> To: "Categories list" <categories@mta.ca>
> Subject: categories: Re: when does preservation of monos imply left
> exactness?
>
>> I'll try again...
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Dmitry Roytenberg
>> <starrgazerr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear category theorists,
>>>
>>> It is well known that any functor that preserves finite limits
>>> preserves monomorphisms, and that for an additive right-exact functor
>>> between abelian categories, the converse is also true. Is it known how
>>> far this extends to the non-additive setting? In other words, what
>>> exactness properties of two categories and a functor between them
>>> would suffice to conclude that the functor preserves finite limits if
>>> and only if it preserves monos? For instance, is it enough to assume
>>> that the categories be Barr-exact and that the functor preserve all
>>> colimits, finite products and monos to conclude that it also preserves
>>> equalizers?
>>>
>>> Any references would be extremely helpful.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dmitry
>>>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-27 22:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-26 11:59 Dmitry Roytenberg
2011-10-26 21:52 ` Richard Garner
2011-10-27 10:32 ` George Janelidze
2011-10-27 22:08 ` Steve Lack [this message]
2011-10-28 12:27 ` Dmitry Roytenberg
2011-10-28 21:36 ` George Janelidze
2011-10-29 6:01 ` Correcting a misprint in my previous message George Janelidze
[not found] ` <C86754D7A15D4A118F901BAD51AA3331@ACERi3>
2011-10-29 21:55 ` when does preservation of monos imply left exactness? Dmitry Roytenberg
[not found] ` <CAAHD2LKCe2kg=t7=FzkOmzHesZoQWX_itcAgjTRVh6SrL31tSA@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-29 23:10 ` George Janelidze
2011-10-31 10:45 ` Dmitry Roytenberg
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